To Make the Case of Gay Marriage, Protests are Counterproductive, Persuasion is What’s Necessary
GayPatriot —
While I disagree (strongly) with Dale Carpenter’s suggestion that juvenile gay activists should move their protests from Mormon Churches to marriage license bureaus, he makes an excellent point about the protests:
Here’s my advice to righteously furious gay-marriage supporters: Stop the focus on the Mormon Church. Stop it now. We just lost a ballot fight in which we were falsely but effectively portrayed as attacking religion. So now some of us attack a religion? People were warned that churches would lose their tax-exempt status, which was untrue. So now we have (frivolous) calls for the ...
Gays vs Mormons
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan —
Dale Carpenter finds the marriage equality protests misguided: Here's my advice to righteously furious gay-marriage supporters: Stop the focus on the Mormon Church. Stop it now. We just lost a ballot fight in which we were falsely but effectively portrayed as attacking religion. So now some of us attack a religion? People were warned that churches would lose their tax-exempt status, which was untrue. So now we have (frivolous) calls for the Mormon Church to lose its tax-exempt status? It's rather selective indignation, anyway, since lots of demographic ...
Debating Prop 8 and its aftermath:
The Volokh Conspiracy —
There's an interesting ongoing debate at The New Republic between Jeffrey Rosen and Richard Just over the litigation approach to getting gay marriage. Basically, Rosen dislikes the emphasis on litigation and Just thinks it has been valuable. Elsewhere, the ever-wise Jon Rauch has some thoughts on how the growing protests over Prop 8 may help move attention away from courts and toward a genuine political movement. Or as he puts it, "Goodbye Thurgood Marshall, hello Martin Luther King." I hope he's right, though it's too early to tell how much staying power these protests are going to have in the absence of ...
Where to aim 'Second Stonewall' anger?
Citizen Crain —
November 12, 2008 Where to aim 'Second Stonewall' anger? Posted by: Chris Mormonprop8protest It's been absolutely inspiring to watch the groundswell of daily -- sometimes hourly -- street protests throughout California since the passage of Proposition 8 last week. So much for the cynicism about Obama-mania on Election Night eclipsing the gay marriage defeats. Rex Wockner and Andy Towle have done a fantastic job of chroncling it all, and Rexo offers this prescient analysis: Maybe Stonewall was Activism 1.0, ACT UP was Activism 2.0, the failed corporate activism of HRC and No On Prop ...
Nationwide pro-SSM demonstrations tomorrow:
The Volokh Conspiracy —
Simultaneous protests are planned for small and large cities in all 50 states tomorrow in reaction to the passage of Prop 8 in California. The sites of the protests will be government buildings -- mostly city halls and other municipal facilities. (Mormon churches, I'm pleased to say ...
Proposition 8 and the Mormons
Daimnation! —
Captain Ed decries the protests against the Mormon church by opponents of Proposition 8 in California:
...From profane billboards to violent protests, the anti-8 demonstrators have focused their ire on Mormons, and now two envelopes of white powder have turned up in the mail at the Mormon Temples in Los Angeles and Salt Lake City... [it was a hoax- DP]
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It was depressingly predictable that the fringe of the protestors would eventually move towards terrorism. Theyve assaulted old ladies and threatened more violence, all because they lost on a ballot proposition. In fact, they ...



