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Robyn74 We should start a tally, how many times does McCain talk about being a POW during the campaign?
A Noun, A Verb, POW
Eschaton —
And the absurdity continues. Interviewed Sunday on CNN, Mr. Warren seemed surprised to learn that Mr. McCain was not in the building during the Obama interview. A spokeswoman for Mr. McCain said he was en route to the church. Nicolle Wallace, a spokeswoman for Mr. McCain, said on Sunday night that Mr. McCain had not heard the broadcast of the event while in his motorcade and heard none of the questions. “The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous,” Ms. Wallace said.
Despite Assurances, McCain Wasnt in a Cone of Silence
Democratic Underground Latest Breaking News —
... appearance in the forum, was asked virtually the same questions as Mr. Obama. Mr. McCains performance was well received, raising speculation among some viewers, especially supporters of Mr. Obama, that he was not as isolated during the Obama interview as Mr. Warren implied. Mr. Warren, pastor of Saddleback, had assured the audience while he was interviewing Mr. Obama that we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence and that he could not hear the questions. Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/us/politics/18mccain....
Despite Assurances, McCain Wasnt in a Cone of Silence
Democratic Underground Latest Breaking News —
... appearance in the forum, was asked virtually the same questions as Mr. Obama. Mr. McCains performance was well received, raising speculation among some viewers, especially supporters of Mr. Obama, that he was not as isolated during the Obama interview as Mr. Warren implied. Mr. Warren, pastor of Saddleback, had assured the audience while he was interviewing Mr. Obama that we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence and that he could not hear the questions. Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/us/politics/18mccain....
Back to Aggressive Whining
Talking Points Memo —
... As a side note, we keep hearing that McCain is 'reluctant' to talk about his POW experience. But he sends out his press spokespeople to use it to deflect questions about his honesty. Said Nicolle Wallace: ""The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous." ...
Dept. of pre-emptive outrage
Ben Smith's Blog —
... have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama. He seemed so well prepared," as Mike Allen reports.
Also, McCain's camp confirms he wasn't in the cone of silence, though there was no TV in the car. (There were, presumably, blackberries; though in fact, no evidence has emerged that McCain had the (obvious!) questions early, and Warren, not McCain, made the claim that he was in a sealed room.)
Meanwhile, Nicole Wallace plays the POW card to swat down the suggestion McCain cheated: ...
Sore loser: Obama and Obamedia accuse McCain of “cheating”
Michelle Malkin —
... went, well, nuts. The NYTimes piled on ( “Despite Assurances, McCain Wasn’t In a ‘Cone of Silence’ “). The McCain camp has ...
McCain Not in “Cone of Silence” During First Half Hour of Warren Forum
PoliGazette —
CNN (relevant part of interview at about 1:20) and the New York Times are reporting that John McCain was not in the “cone of silence” that Rev. Rick Warren suggested he would be in for part of the time of the hour Barack Obama took questions from the pastor. As you can see in the CNN interview, Rev. Warren admits as much. It turns out that McCain’s motorcade was stuck in traffic and was about half and hour late in arriving to Saddleback Church.
The story has spread throughout the news media and blogosphere, and as you can see, it has raised questions on whether McCain or his staffers had access to the questions being ...
McCain Not in “Cone of Silence” During 1st Half of Warren Forum
PoliGazette —
CNN (relevant part of interview at about 1:20) and the New York Times are reporting that John McCain was not in the “cone of silence” that Rev. Rick Warren suggested he would be in while Barack Obama took questions from the pastor. As you can see in the CNN interview, Rev. Warren admits as much. It turns out that McCain’s motorcade was stuck in traffic and was about half and hour late in arriving to Saddleback Church.
The story has spread throughout the news media and blogosphere, and as you can see, it has raised questions on whether McCain or his staffers had access to the questions being asked of Obama. I’m ...
McCain Had Advantage Over Obama For Saddleback Forum
News Hounds —
... Saturday night, immediately after the Saddleback Forum, FOX News had a panel ready for analysis on the Strategy Room.. Everyone on the panel agreed that John McCain was strong and decisive. In fact, McCain was so quick with his answers that he finished at least 15 minutes ahead of schedule. There may be a reason for McCain's strong and decisive responses. The New York Times reports that John McCain was not in "a cone of silence" to prevent him from hearing the questions because he was,in fact, caught in traffic while Obama was questioned by Pastor Rick Warren ...
NYT Backs Up NBC: McCain Was Not In "Cone Of Silence" Before Saddleback
The Huffington Post | Full News Feed —
... However, the New York Times' Kit Seelye has boldly backed up Mitchell's claim in today's story, "Despite Assurances, McCain Wasn't in a 'Cone of Silence'." Per Seelye: ...
Saddleback Burns: McCain Wasn't in "Code of Silence"; McCain Camp Complains to Media for Passing On Allegation He Heard Questions Ahead of Time
Political Punch —
... Saddleback Burns: McCain Wasn't in "Code of Silence"; McCain Camp Complains to Media for Passing On Allegation He Heard Questions Ahead of Time August 18, 2008 3:57 AM The New York Times reports this morning that despite the assurances of Pastor Rick Warren that Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., would be in a "cone of silence" and not able to hear his "Civil Forum" questions ahead of time as they were first posted to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, Saturday evening, McCain was actually in a motorcade on the way to the church at the time."The matter is of interest because ...
The NYT's Most Anti-McCain, Misleading Headline of the Week
NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias —
... On Sunday, August 17, The New York Times did its level best to assist the Obama campaign to further that mistaken conception -- well, all right, that outright lie -- even as they debunked the story. How? By making their headline seem to support the Obama claim that McCain cheated, that's how. ...
Early Morning Swim
Firedoglake —
Special 12,000 calorie edition.
Musharraf resigns.
“The insinuation that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous." Tell that to his first wife.
Hmmm. Obama is appearing with Bill Richardson in NM today.
Something's happening in Ohio, and it ain't good.
Obama takes the gloves off.
Hey, I can dream. (via)
McCain’s ‘cone of silence’
Political Animal —
Before the candidate forum at the Saddleback Church got underway on Saturday night, the Rev. Rick Warren explained that both candidates would get the exact same questions. Barack Obama would go first, and John McCain had been “safely placed … in a cone of silence.”
As it turns out, that’s not quite right.
Members of the McCain campaign staff, who flew here Sunday from California, said Mr. McCain was in his motorcade on the way to the church as Mr. Obama was being interviewed by the Rev. Rick Warren, the author of the ...
Your Abbreviated Pundit Round-up
Daily Kos —
... pay grade of the President of the United States. What's that? A God reference? Nah. It was a civil service reference, I'm certain of it. Anyway, what's God got to do with GOP faith®? And now for serious analysis (remembering this was a McCain-inclined audience): Jonah Goldberg: I'm the grown-up today? Scary. Anyway, Obama did well in a setting he didn't have to win, but McCain had his best performance of the election so far. Katharine Seeley: "Despite Assurances, McCain Wasn’t in a ‘Cone of ...
NBC’s Mitchell Reveals How McCain Breached Cone
ScrappleFace —
... today explained how Sen. John McCain may have violated the ‘cone of silence’ at Saturday night’s forum with Pastor Rick Warren, allowing him to get a sneak preview of questions posed to Barack Obama before he took the stage to answer the same questions. ...
NYT, Andrea Mitchell, Obama supporters/surrogates imply McCain “cheated” at Saddleback forum
Sister Toldjah —
... What happened is that some of McCain’s staff confirmed with certain mediots that McCain was in his motorcade on the way to the event from the hotel right as the questioning of Obama started, and arrived about half an hour into the questioning, where he was placed in that “Cone of Silence” Warren assured everyone he was in at the beginning of the broadcast. Yesterday on Meet the Press, ...
Did McCranky lie? cheat? plagiarize and fabulize? say idiotic stuff that shocked even Pastor Rick Warren? Well, of course, but so what?
DownWithTyranny! —
Sens. McCranky and Obama in their "cones of silence" -- oh wait, it's Charles Van Doren and Herb Stempel in their "supposedly soundproof" booths on the quiz show 21. by Ken A lot of people I respect are in a tizzy over Young Johnny McC's latest public performance, pouncing on this or that lie or ...
Quote of the Day
The Reaction —
... “The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous.” -- Nicolle Wallace, McCain spokesperson, reluctantly playing the POW card for the zillionith time. Benen has ...
Early Word: Convention Previews
The Caucus —
... lose.” In addition, Leon Panetta, former Clinton administration official, also expressed his dismay in the article about the depth of entrenchment among Hillary Democrats. “There is a sense of entitlement that almost seems to be inbred,” he was quoted as saying. “They are convinced Hillary is the one who should be assuming the mantle and it’s tough to crack that.” He also said he wouldn’t have recommended allowing Senator Clinton’s name to be put into nomination next week. In a follow-up to this weekend’s forum between Mr. Obama and his rival, Senator John ...
Cone of Silence
This Modern World —
... on “Meet the Press” that “the Obama people must feel that he didn’t do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context. … What they’re putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama.” That’s pretty astonishing, since there seems to be absolutely no basis for the charge. But the fact that Obama’s people made this suggestion means they know McCain outperformed him. News story in today’s New York Times, print and online editions: ORLANDO, Fla. — ...
And John McCain, Prisoner of War, Had Oatmeal for Breakfast
MoJo Blog Posts: mojo —
... "Now, my first question: Was the cone of silence comfortable that you were in just now?" McCain responded, "I was trying to hear through the wall." In actuality, McCain was in his motorcade when Obama was being questioned, meaning he could have heard the first part of the event over the radio. But the fact that McCain may have had a slight advantage isn't what caught my eye. What did was how sanctimonious his campaign got when asked about the situation by the press. Here's the New York Times : ...
Kristol Makes His Fourth Factual Error In His New York Times Column
Think Progress —
Today in the New York print edition of the New York Times, columnist Bill Kristol attacks allegations that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) may not have been in the “cone of silence” during Saturday’s Saddleback Civil Forum:
NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reported on “Meet the Press” that “the Obama people must feel that he didn’t do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context. … What they’re putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama.”
That’s pretty astonishing, since there seems to be absolutely no basis ...
McCain: I Don't Cheat!
The Stump —
The McCain camp is outraged at the suggestion that they may have cheated by not sequestering the candidate in Rick Warren's "cone of silence" during Obama's Saddleback appearance on Saturday night. Their over-the-top reaction is a little ridiculous. On the other hand, McCain has a special obsession with honor generally and cheating specifically. In his first memoir, Faith of My Fathers, he writes of his father's genuinely angry reaction after his mother jokingly accused him of cheating at gin rummy: "He reacted so strongly to the accusation, with such evident distress over the charge, admonishing her to 'never say such a ...
Bill Kristol, the gift that keeps on giving
Political Animal —
In the print edition of the New York Times this morning, Bill Kristol’s column noted the talk that John McCain may not have been in “the cone of silence” during Saturday night’s event at the Saddleback Church, and may have heard some of the questions before he took the stage. Kristol dismissed the talk out of hand, calling the suggestion from Obama campaign aides “astonishing,” and insisting there’s “absolutely no basis for the charge.”
Of course, as we discussed this morning, McCain wasn’t in a “cone of silence”; he was in a limo en route to the event while Obama was answering ...
Candidates Told Some Questions in Advance
Taegan Goddard's Political Wire —
... However, McCain may have had an even bigger advantage. The New York Times notes he was not in a "cone of silence" during Obama's questioning and could have heard some of the questions he would be asked in advance. ...
Kristol’s Cone of Silence
The Moderate Voice —
Surprise, Surprise!
In his much awaited Monday column in the New York Times, “Showdown at Saddleback,” Bill Kristol declares John McCain the winner at Saddleback’s Cone of Silence event.
In addition to his unbiased verdict on the Saddleback Church “debate,” made scrupulously fair because Obama went first and McCain second after having been “safely placed in a cone of silence,” Kristol tell us that the cone of silence event yielded three conclusions for him:
“First, Rick Warren should moderate one of the fall presidential debates.” Hopefully without cone of silence charades. ...
McCain cannot tell a lie (or at least he can't be accused of telling one)
Corrente —
See if you can correctly guess the missing phrase in this quote from McCain spokeswoman Nicolle Wallace:
“The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, [fill-in-the-blank], cheated is outrageous,” Ms. Wallace said.
Which is the missing phrase:
a) a member of the Keating Five
b) the man who single-handedly legalized torture after pretending to stand up against it
c) a man who feigned outrage about his friend John Kerry’s “botched joke”
d) a former prisoner of war
e) a man cheated on his wife
Jerry Weissman: Saddleback II: Was there a "Cone of Silence"?
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com —
My post earlier today drew a sharp distinction between how Barack Obama and John McCain presented in an encounter on Saturday at the Saddleback Church in California. Essentially, Obama answered questions posed at him haltingly, while McCain responded crisply.
The format of the encounter was to have each man spend an hour responding to the same set of questions. Obama went first by coin toss. To level the playing field, McCain was ostensibly kept in what moderator Rick Warren called a "cone of silence."
Now it turns out that McCain was not in that cone. According to Kathrine Seelye's report in the New York Times, McCain was not in ...
Tom Tomorrow: The Revisionist
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com —
Bill Kristol, in the print edition of this morning's New York Times:
NBC's Andrea Mitchell reported on "Meet the Press" that "the Obama people must feel that he didn't do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context. ... What they're putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama."
That's pretty astonishing, since there seems to be absolutely no basis for the charge. But the fact that Obama's people made this suggestion means they know McCain outperformed him.
News story in today's New York ...
8/18: Back In The Saddle
Blogometer —
August 18, 2008 8/18: Back In The Saddle Political bloggers are discussing John McCain and Barack Obama 's respective interviews with mega-pastor Rick Warren at his Saddleback Church in CA. Liberal bloggers believe that Obama and McCain both gave successful performances, although some lefty bloggers aren't convinced that Obama's evangelical outreach will pay off on Election Day. Conservative bloggers, meanwhile, are convinced that McCain was the night's clear winner and that he did a better job of connecting with the audience. The American Spectator ...
Eric Schmeltzer: Senator John Complain
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com —
Wow.
So, Senator McCain goes on national television and lies to a pastor, pretending that he was in a "cone of silence" holding room during the Saddleback Forum where he couldn't hear the questions that he would be asked that were also being posed to Senator Obama, gets called on it, and then lodges an official complaint with NBC News because Andrea Mitchell was one of the many reporters to report on it?
To quote Grandpa Simpson, the Senator's alter ego, "Oh, Bitch Bitch Bitch..."
First off, let me tackle this insane notion that Andrea Mitchell is someone in the bag for Senator Obama, because she dared to report on what was ...
The New York Times makes Bill Kristol look even stupider than usual
Crooks and Liars —
Boy, this is great. On the same day Bill Kristol says this:
“NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reported on “Meet the Press” that “the Obama people must feel that he didn’t do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context. […] ‘What they’re putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama.’
“That’s pretty astonishing, since there seems to be absolutely no basis for the charge.”
The newspaper in which he said it says ...
Kristol Makes His Fourth Factual Error In His New York Times Column
The Hollywood Liberal —
Kristol Makes His Fourth Factual Error In His New York Times Column Today in the New York print edition of the New York Times, columnist Bill Kristol attacks allegations that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) may not have been in the “cone of silence” during Saturday’s Saddleback Civil Forum: NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reported on “Meet the Press” that “the Obama people must feel that he didn’t do […] kristol_incompetent3.jpg Today in the New York print edition of the New York Times, columnist Bill Kristol attacks allegations that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) may not have been in the “cone of silence” during Saturday’s Saddleback Civil Forum: NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reported on ...
The Week's News in Review
culturekitchen - fresh dissent served daily —
Bush flip flops on Putin's soul. It seems like only yesterday that Bush said of President Vladimir Putin: "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue... I was able to get a sense of his soul." Now, Bush accuses the Russian president of "bullying and intimidation." It remains unclear whether Putin has changed or Bush has bad soul-dar.
Condoleeza Rice leaks conscience to the press. [or "in rare moment, Condoleeza Rice let's conscience slip."] The Secretary of State said "military power" is "not the way to deal in the 21st century."
In a similar episode, ...
