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Ace of Spades HQ: Leak: Internal Dem Whip-Count Document Shows "Robust Public Option" Doesn't Have the Votes to Clear Even the House
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Open Left - Front Page: House Still Short for Medicare +5%, But Within Striking Distance
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Leak: Internal Dem Whip-Count Document Shows "Robust Public Option" Doesn't Have the Votes to Clear Even the House
Ace of Spades HQ —
Leak: Internal Dem Whip-Count Document Shows "Robust Public Option" Doesn't Have the Votes to Clear Even the House I've been thinking that Democrats have decided this is doomed, so now they are playing exclusively to their base, pushing as "robust" a "public option" as possible. They maybe want to campaign on "We swung for the fences but struck out." Given that the "robust public option" can't even get enough Democratic votes to pass, I think maybe that's right. The House Dem leadership has conducted its preliminary whip count and has tallied up less than 200 likely Yes votes ...
"Robust PO" Doesn't have the votes in the House
Open Left - Quick Hits's RSS Feed —
I assume that means "Medicare +5%". Guess we weren't as close as we thought... The document shows that 47 House Dems are committed No votes, and eight are Leaning No, for a total of 56. That means of 256 House Dems, only 200 remain, and a dozen of those are listed as undecided. The bill needs 218 votes for passage. Link.
House Still Short for Medicare +5%, But Within Striking Distance
Open Left - Front Page —
... Greg Sargent is reporting that House Whip James Clyburn has told the Congressional Progressive Caucus that he does not currently have the votes for the "robust" (that is, Medicare +5%, in current lingo) public option. ...
Unrobust
Ben Smith's Blog —
Greg Sargent confirms Mike Allen's report that Nancy Pelosi doesn't have the votes for a "robust" public option.
House Still Shy On Votes For Robust Public Option
TPM Election Central —
... Greg Sargent's numbers are right: "47 House Dems are committed No votes, and eight are Leaning No," on a health care bill if it includes a public option, preferred by reformers, that pays providers Medicare rates plus five percent. ...
Leaked Internal House Leadership Whip Count Shows 47 Dems at No, 8 Leaning No and 12 Undecided
RedState —
... Plumline’s Greg Sargent has posted the results of a highly confidential House Democratic Party Whip Count which shows 47 Democrats at No on a public option, with another 8 leaning No for a total of 56. A dozen Democratic House members are still undecided. The hard No votes, alone, are enough to kill the bill. The leaked document was produced by the U.S. House Majority Whip’s office. ...
Tuesday's Mini-Report
Political Animal —
... , proposing "freezing interest rates and fees on existing credit card balances until a new law took effect." * The votes still aren't there for a robust public option in the House. * Snowe's ...
Where'd the Votes Go?
Talking Points Memo —
... Today our old colleague Greg Sargent reports that the latest whip count shows more than 50 potential Democratic defectors on the robust public option -- far more than the 38 Dems she can afford to lose and still pass the bill with zero GOP support. That may explain the noises Majority Leader ...
Meanwhile, Back at the House
Daily Kos —
Greg Sargent is reporting that House Whip Clyburn says he doesn't have the votes for the robust, Medicare Plus Five, public option. Clyburn told the assembled members at the meeting that the leadership does not have the votes to pass the robust public option, according to a House progressive familiar with the meeting. That sparked aggressive pushback from liberals, who argued that leadership - and the White House - should be working harder to win over the remaining votes the bill needs. The document shows that 47 House Dems are committed No votes, ...
House libs want leadership and White House to fight harder for robust public option
AMERICAblog News| A great nation deserves the truth —
Greg Sargent has the story. (I hear the numbers in the House are significantly higher than what Greg is reporting.)
Under 200 Votes For Public Option ?
The Moderate Voice —
A leaked memo from the Democratic Whip’s office shows that they may have under 200 votes for the public option, so the issue of 60 Senate votes may be moot
See details at the Plumline
Robust Public Option Might Not Pass House
Liberal Values —
... , but the type of public option which the House will pass also remains unknown. With the House only needing a simple majority to pass a bill it is probable that there will be some type of public option. Greg Sargent reports that there does not appear to be enough votes at present for the more robust option favored by many liberals which would pay at Medicare rates plus five percent: ...
Reid Not Worried About Lieberman
Taylor Marsh —
... But the real puzzlement is what happened in the House. How could Speaker Pelosi be so wrong about her count last week? She definitely telegraphed, even if she did say it explicitly, that she absolutely had the votes. Now she doesn’t. ...
Leaked Internal House Memo Shows Dems Short Of Votes On Health Care Bill
Right Soup —
... Look for the Democrat party leadership and the White House to dig deeper for pork to throw around, as a highly confidential House Whip count shows the votes just aren’t there to pass the current versions of Obamacare. Greg Sargent at Plum Line obtained the confidential doc, compiled by House leader James Clyburn, and distributed privately at a meeting between Clyburn and House progressives yesterday. Plum Line reveals: ...
Public Option Lacks Votes To Get Through House Of Representatives
Below The Beltway —
More bad news for ObamaCare:
The House Dem leadership has conducted its preliminary whip count and has tallied up less than 200 likely Yes votes in support of a health care reform bill with a robust public option, well short of the 218 needed for passage, according to an internal whip count document I’ve obtained.
The document — compiled by the office of House leader James Clyburn — was distributed privately at a meeting between Clyburn and House progressives today where the fate of the public option was the subject of some contentious debate, with ...
Where things stand
Political Animal —
... might be playing to a home-state crowd, while others are looking for bargaining power as the final bill takes shape." Indeed, one of the more striking observations of the day was that most of the Hill still seems convinced that health care reform will pass -- in one form or another -- in the near future. The NYT added, "With or without a public plan, Democrats expressed growing confidence that a version of the health care bill would be adopted." As for the House, the search for 218 remains challenging , but the leadership is reportedly making progress, and still expects to ...
Can the House deliver a robust public option?
Hot Air » Top Picks —
... Most of the speculation on a public option in ObamaCare has focused on the Senate. With a 70-seat majority in the House, everyone assumed that Nancy Pelosi could easily deliver on government coverage, especially with the progressives in her caucus threatening to commit hara-kiri if the moderates didn’t play ball. However, Greg Sargent at The Plum Line got a copy of a document from Majority Whip James Clyburn’s office, and it looks as though Pelosi and Clyburn fall short of 200 votes on a “robust public option,” at least at the moment: The House Dem leadership has conducted ...
House Leadership Deciding Now on Public Option
Daily Kos —
... What we'll probaby hear is that the public option will be based on negotiated rates, rather than the robust public option based on Meidcare rates plus 5% that the progressive caucus has been supporting. I say probably, because the whip count on this has been all over the place. Yesterday, Greg Sargent raised some panic over a whip list showing that the robust public option didn't have the votes. However, that list is now being disputed by it's source, ...
The Future of the Public Option
Firedoglake —
... I never believed the whip list that appeared in late October either, there were just too many people on it who weren’t credible. Forget about the Blue Dogs — all of the New Dems were going to screw the ...
