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andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com - 12/22/2008

Freedom Or Power?

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In many ways, I think those two polarities often expose the deeper fault-lines in our politics than right or left (because the choice between freedom and power exists within both right and left as well). And this Rick Warren flap at its core, I think, is about the difference between those who ...

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ocregister.com - 12/24/2008

Pastor says 'God will punish Rick Warren'

— ocregister.com — Wiley Drake criticizes Warren, calls Obama 'evil illegal alien.'... (more) Pastor says 'God will punish Rick Warren'

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juancole.com - 12/21/2008

Rick Warren: "I love Muslims . . . I happen to love Gays and Straights"

— juancole.com — I was in Long Beach,Ca. on Saturday for the annual conference of the Muslim Public Affairs Council... , where Pastor Rick Warren and I were both headliners . Also appearing on the stage Saturday evening were Melissa Etheridge and Salman Ahmad, singing ... (more) Rick Warren: "I love Muslims . . . I happen to love ...

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digbysblog.blogspot.com - 12/23/2008

Hullabaloo

— digbysblog.blogspot.com — Monday, December 22, 2008 One Way Street by digby I saw something very interesting today on MSNBC.... Barnicle, filling in for Matthews on Hardball , hosted Reverend Eugene Rivers, a well respected, uncontroversial African American preacher, and Mike ... (more) Hullabaloo

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"The gay movement should always, always be about expanding freedom for everyone, even bigots"
Hit & Run — ... So says Andrew Sullivan, in a pretty persuasive (to me) chunk of writing about the controversy over Barack Obama inviting Prop. 8 supporter Rick Warren to give the inaugural invocation (on which, make sure to read ...

The Age of Bush
d r i f t g l a s s — ... shrugging off the bodies and wreckage they have left in their wake, insisting the antidote to the horrific side-effects of their patent medicine is to double the dosage. And because this is the case , it falls to us – the crazy America-hating Left – to take out the big clown hammer to the revisionists whenever and wherever they pop out of the shadows to try and slap a new paint job on their ideological Ford Pinto and resell it as a Conservative Prius. Such as this column by Andrew Sullivan: "Freedom Or Power? "In many ways, I think those ...

What Gays Can Teach Blacks About Civil Rights
MoJo Blog Posts: mojo — I've been mulling over this column by Andrew Sullivan on Rick Warren. He gets it right; his logic is elegant and even moving. "And this Rick Warren flap at its core, I think, is about the difference between those who see a civil rights movement as a means to wield power and those who see it as a means to spread freedom." "My long conflict with some parts of the gay left is precisely about this distinction, and [his book] Virtually Normal was an attempt to construct a theory for gay civil rights which rests on as much ...