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JournoList Revealed! Inside the Secret Liberal Media Email Cabal
Michael Calderone's article on the large, secretive liberal media email group JournoList sparked a lot of debate-- some of it in this space --on whether this group is a healthy development for coverage of politics. The debate was necessarily speculative because actual JournoList ...
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Peretz Is A Racist And Sullivan Lacks Integrity?
Riehl World View — ... It seems the JournoList has gone public with a thread that calls Marty Peretz a racist in its actual title. And then there's this: ...

MICKEY KAUS: JournoList Revealed. Plus the important disclaimer: “This is not a parody!” Maybe a…
Instapundit — MICKEY KAUS: JournoList Revealed. Plus the important disclaimer: “This is not a parody!” Maybe a self-parody, though. ...

The JournoList
RedState: Conservative News and CommunityHere’s your chance to peek inside the left-wing echo chamber. The actual Google Group address is here, though it is a private group. (I wonder how long before a civic minding right wing hacker tries successfully to break in? Not that I’d ever encourage that.) It makes for an interesting conversation. Apparently, many of the lefties don’t much care for Olbermann either. And they hate Marty Peretz, considering him a racist, which we all know is code for “Jewish” among this group of typically America haters who, many of them ...

Mickey Kaus
Sister Toldjah — JournoList Revealed! Inside the Secret Liberal Media Email Cabal

Deep Inside the JournoList
The Corner on National Review Online — ... ] Mickey Kaus gets forwarded a lengthy discussion thread from the super-secret JournoList and, well, it turns out it's exactly the kind of thoughtful and high-brow policy salon we all imagined it to be. ...

Mickey Kaus leaks a JournoList thread.
Althouse — ... that there were "a lot" of anti-Semitic commenters on my blog.) There are 300 journalists hanging out with each other on the list. Is that a bad thing? Are they coordinating their stories, losing their independence and sharp edge? Well, they aren't so coordinated that they can all keep the list secret, and here's what Mickey got hold of. They seem pretty tedious and unattractive. I don't mind if they keep it private, very private. That said, if there's anything on the JournoList about me — some scurrilous charge of anti-Semitism, perhaps — please pass it on. ...

Mickey Kaus: Hero
Galley Slaves — ... Kaus has posted a thread from inside Ezra Klein's JournoList. Go read it now, before it disappears. You can't imagine how awesome it is. ...

Fun With Journolist
RedState: Conservative News and Community — ... Oh my gosh, the funny in that Kaus article is writing checks my keyboard can’t cash. I think I’m having a snarkeurysm. Let’s snip out some choice Olbermann tidbits hmm? ...

JournoList Revealed!
Patterico's Pontifications — ... Mickey Kaus goes inside JournoList and reveals a set of messages from the secret and elite cabal. Shockingly, the participants sound like a bunch of fighting morons, just like everyone else on the Internet, with feverish e-mails bearing sober subject lines like: “BREAKING: Marty Peretz is a Crazy-Ass Racist.” ...

Foaming At The Mouth
PoliGazette — It was only a matter of time. One of the threads from the invitation-only liberal-only debating society known as JournoList has gotten out, and its contents are highly revealing. Including a slew of high-profile liberal bloggers (including several that have been pointed out to me as supposedly reasonable and moderate), the thread contains a lively debate over exactly how disgusting and racist all conservatives are. Along the way, this lefty group-think club showcases the vulgarity and hate that seems to lie at the very core of the left side of the blogosphere. More amusing, perhaps, is the posturing and self-promotion that seems to provoke the only issues of actual contention on the ...

Deep Intellect
small dead animals — Reader Tips | Main | Oh, Great God Of Earthquakes March 27, 2009 Deep Intellect Inside the JournoList . h/t Posted by Kate at March 27, 2009 12:38 AM Comments Post a comment Before submitting, review the post to ensure your comment is on topic and does not contain words that might get caught in the spam filter (eg: insurance, viagra, online, poker). This is not a forum or a repository for off-topic link dumps. Profanity is discouraged. Take your extended debates and/or flamewars to private email. Thankyou. Name: Email Address: URL: Remember ...

Reading JournoList
Michael Calderone's Blog — ... Check out the thread here, and follow the back-and-forth from JList regulars like Eric Alterman, Jonathan Chait,  Katha Pollitt, Matt Yglesias, and Brad DeLong. ...

The ugly left
TigerHawk — ... links to Mickey Kaus, who has gotten his hands on a thread from the JournoList , the putatively but not actually off-the-record discussion group of lefty journalists and bloggers. ...

Mickey Kaus Scoops the Secret Left-Wing E-mail Group - JOURNOLIST
FullosseousFlap's Dental Blog — ... Yeah, Mickey Kaus has the scoop. Enjoy reading the high brow, sophisticated discussion here. Why would these idiots ever think that some of their comments on a Google Groups list via e-mail would NOT Leak out? Jeff Goldstein: Think “Woodward and Bernstein bring down Nixon,” only replace “Woodward and Bernstein bring down Nixon” with “A bunch of guys who were beaten up daily in junior high show why they almost certainly had it coming.” Murrow wept. Jonah Goldberg: Obviously, it’s ...

People Who Won't Be Writing for the New Republic Anymore-olist
Weekly Standard Blog — Last week Politico's Michael Calderone wrote a piece about the left-wing "Journo-list" listserv set up by the American Prospect's Ezra Klein. There are several hundred members, including left-wing bloggers, mainstream reporters, members of the administration, and their hangers-on. The communications are all off the record, but Klein assured Calderone that the forum is nothing more than a place "where journalists and policy wonks can discuss issues freely." Mickey Kaus got his hands on one of the discussions inside what he calls the "secret liberal media email cabal." The issue: Whether or not the New Republic editor and owner Marty Peretz is an inveterate "crazy-ass" ...

Inside the Secret Liberal Media Email Cabal
Little Green Footballs — Mickey Kaus has posted a leaked series of emails from that (no longer) secret mailing list for journalists and left-wing bloggers, and it’s every bit as bad as you might have imagined; this exchange is titled: “BREAKING: Marty Peretz is a Crazy-Ass Racist.” These are the captains of media, throwing around insults like a bunch of high school kids, where they think they won’t get caught at it.

The Ed Morrissey Show: Week in Review with Duane “Generalissimo” Patterson
Hot Air » Top Picks — ... . Duane and I will take a look at both Obama Shows this week, and we’ll also look at AIG outrage and its consequences. What can we derive from JournoList , other than the Left likes to toss the “RACIST!” smear at each other as well as the Right. All of this and more — and stay tuned for a preview of tonight’s Hugh Hewitt Show. Now you can join the conversation in the chat room! Be sure to register at Ustream to participate in our raucous live-chat sessions. (And if the log-in prompt doesn’t come up in the chat box below, use ...

My Newfound Respect For Ezra Klein
JustOneMinute — Mickey Kaus gets behind the Journolist curtain and reveals the left's Best and Brightest at what we can only hope is neither their best nor brightest.  I applaud Journolist founder Ezra Klein, who can't be getting paid enough to read this bilge.  Especially amusing are the call-outs to Ezra from other posters imploring him to stop their mutual descent into juvenile snark.  Too late! Oh, well - folks who are tired of the comment threads at Atrios probably won't enjoy this either. SINCE YOU ASKED, WE CAN SERIOUS UP: The Journolist pablum-toss centered around this passage from ...

Scritti Politti: March 27, 2009
The Huffington Post | Full News Feed — ... Congratulations are in order to Mickey Kaus, who proved, through the disclosure of a single, intended-to-be-off-the-record threaded discussion from JournoList, that people have, in fact, occasionally disagreed on the internet. ...

Scritti Politti: March 27, 2009
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com — ... Congratulations are in order to Mickey Kaus, who proved, through the disclosure of a single, intended-to-be-off-the-record threaded discussion from JournoList, that people have, in fact, occasionally disagreed on the internet. ...

Keith Doesn't Lie, He's Merely Egomaniacal and Hysterical
NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias — ... Mickey Kaus has posted some liberals chatting privately at the secretive e-mail list JournoList. "This is not a parody! It's the real thing. I don't know whether or not it is representative." The topics were hatred for New Republic owner Marty Peretz, the craziness of Michael Savage, and how that compares to the blather of Keith Olbermann. Jesse Singal of Campus Progress tried a rather qualified defense of the King of MSNBC: ...

Saturday links
Maggie's Farm — ... history of domesticated maize pushed back to 8700 years. Coyote sort-of defends Ward Churchill. (Of course, he rightly assumes there are no standards in Churchill's line of work.) Did you check out Zinsser's piece On Writing Well: Visions and Revisions? Darn interesting. His book is a classic, right up there with Strunk&White. The scandal of thermodynamics. It doesn't allow for life. The Journolist propaganda machine revealed. Obama appears to mean business in ...

Jonah Goldberg Sticks Up For Marty Peretz’s Racism
Think Progress — On Thursday, Slate’s Mickey Kaus posted an e-mail thread from the off-the-record e-mail list serve JournoList, in which various left-leaning bloggers and journalists (including Matt Yglesias and the Wonk Room’s Matt Duss) discussed whether New Republic editor-in-chief Marty Peretz is “a Crazy-A** Racist.” The thread was a reaction to a blog post by Peretz that labeled Mexico as having the “characteristic deficiencies” of “Latin society”: Well, I am extremely pessimistic about ...

McConnell: Bush was a ?millstone? around Republicans? necks.
The Hollywood Liberal — ... On Thursday, Slate’s Mickey Kaus posted an e-mail thread from the off-the-record e-mail list serve JournoList, in which various left-leaning bloggers and journalists (including Matt Yglesias and the Wonk Room’s Matt Duss) discussed whether New Republic editor-in-chief Marty Peretz is “a Crazy-A** Racist.” The thread was a reaction to a blog post by Peretz that […] jonahperetez.jpg On Thursday, Slate’s Mickey Kaus posted an e-mail thread from the off-the-record e-mail list serve ...

What Mickey Won't Publish
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan — Mickey Kaus lobs this at Ezra Klein: Reminder to JournoList organizer E. Klein, who likes to take it private: All communications are on the record. Don't ever email Mickey! But he isn't being entirely accurate. There are some things Mickey won't publish: It bothered me when folks where making totally unsubstantiated comments about [REDACTED!--mk]'s sex life, and it bothers me when folks make [REDACTED] jokes. To be clear, I'm totally open to legitimate commentary on the substance of anyone's argument, and people should ...

Midday open thread
Daily Kos — ... I'm not on JournoList, and Mickey Kaus is an ass for printing this thread (I'm sure he's never had an email conversation about politics with more than two people, right?), but it warms my heart that they're using their super-secret cabal to trash the New Republic. Well deserved, and a great use of their time. ...

Uninformed Comment
Weekly Standard Blog — ... many days in the hospital ICU. That would give every physician an incentive to see patients less and to provide less care. Not that a good doctor would do that but the whole point is that you cannot reduce the cost of medical care by an electronic medical record, by universal coverage, by pay for performance or by any other approach than reducing how much care is given or how much one pays for care. Klein should have bounced this one off some of the "experts" on the Journolist.

Wood Burns!
JustOneMinuteCrazy ass Journolister Christopher Hayes of The Nation points out a fascinating tax scam related to alternative fuel tax credits.  Or check out this quick summary on some obscure chat board from Jan 15 2009 : I don't know how much time I will have today to devote to a heated discussion of black sludge, but here is a background paper from 2007 .  Wood processing does not seem to fit the spirit of their discussion. The tax credit was part of the 2005 transportation bill, says Mr. Hayes, so Bush and the Republican cronies of Big Business can be targeted ...

One Afternoon In a Secret Corner of the Internet
iowahawk — ... Welcome to the JournoList Top Secret Progressive He-Man Wingnut Haters Club and L33t H4xoR Chat Room. Disclaimer: this is a private discussion forum intended solely for the benefit of JournoList members. Reproduction, transmission, redistribution, or description, in whole or in part, of any content (including, but not limited to, private insults, insider innuendo, political manifestos, hair styling tips and/or gossip) without the expressed written consent of the commissioner is strictly prohibited. Please read and agree to the User Consent Form. And, as always, remember ...

Iowahawk FTW LOL!!!
Daimnation! — An exclusive look at JournoList. (Background here.) Damian P.

Alec Baldwin: Olbermann & Maddow Kind of Hard to Watch
RedState: Conservative News and Community — Poor Keith! First the big kids refuse to invite him into their little club, and now they’re trashing him out in the open! On cable news, I am a fan of Keith and Rachel. But he wastes too much time p***ing on Bush and his deposed cronies. She is smart and charming but her writers are dreadful and the less cutesy she is, the better. She did an excellent interview with Colin Powell recently. The next night, I missed that tougher, less avuncular Rachel. A while back, the idea of sitting down at another screen and getting my evening news seemed ...

Howie Kurtz on “The Media Elite’s Secret Dinners”
Sister Toldjah — ... This story reminds me of the one that broke several weeks ago about the “secret” JournoList group, an online group of mostly prominent liberal opinion writers, reporters, and “policy wonks.” The “secret” group is, according to Michael Calderone at ...

Everything you need to know about President Obama's latest "town hall" meeting
Wizbang — ... , the Post finally announced that the upcoming salon dinner would be canceled. Oh well ... at least JournoList is still free, and still running.

Joe Trippi confesses sock-puppetry, but not astroturfing for Carolyn Maloney.
RedState: Conservative News and Community — ... ) and ‘astroturfing’ (creating a false impression of grassroots support for an issue via a coordinated campaign; see Journolist).  Trippi’s been caught out on the second, and there’s probably evidence coming up that will show that his staff were heavily involved in the first on Congresswoman Maloney’s behalf; hence, the ‘acceptance of responsibility’ by blaming anonymous staffers. ...

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Defending Peretz Cont'd
corner.nationalreview.com 3/29/2009 — A few points. First, as a number of readers, including at least one with first hand knowledge, make the point that some on the Journolist do and have defended Peretz, and only seeing one snippet gives a mistaken perception. That's fine. And I'm sure ...
More evil JournoList activity!Balloon Juice
From the Politico : Well now, long-time “Klein Klub” critic Mickey Kaus has posted a leaked JList exchange where members of the group discuss whether former and current TNR owner Marty Peretz is racist, as well as, if Olbermann is insufferable. Check out the thread here, and ...
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