White House Dodging Questions on Bagram Prison and Detainees Without Rights
BuzzFlash.org - Progressive News and Commentary with an Attitude | Fight Ignorance: Read BuzzFlash — ... , detail-oriented bloggers discovered that previous disclosures of waterboarding had kept hidden a much larger use of the technique. Two detainees underwent ...

Today's Sickening Calculation
Discourse.net — ... Emptywheel » Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Waterboarded 183 Times in One Month. ...

There Better Be a Helluva Lot of Ticks Left In That Bomb
Balloon Juice — ... At any rate, Emptywheel brings this to our attention: I’ve put this detail in a series of posts, but it really deserves a full post. According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo explains: The CIA used the waterboard ...

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in one month.
Think Progress — ... Marcy Wheeler digs through the recently-disclosed Office of Legal Counsel memos authored by the Bush Justice Department and finds these startling statistics: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. Wheeler concludes, “The CIA wants you to believe waterboarding is effective. Yet somehow, it took them 183 applications of the waterboard in a one month period to get what they claimed was cooperation out of KSM. That ...

Waterboarded 183 Times in a Month
Newshoggers.com — By BJ Bjornson This post deserves a great deal of attention. I've put this detail in a series of posts, but it really deserves a full post. According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo explains: The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in the ...

Still trying to wrap my head around this...
Rising Hegemon — Cannot fucking believe it -- I know it's the Bush regime so I should never be stunned but this is shocking: According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. 183, that's an average of six times a day. Six! Fuck! Sickening. That's not "effective" interrogation that's sadism. ...

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Waterboarded 183 Times
Outside The Beltway | OTB — ... Marcy Wheeler picks an interesting factoid out of the “Bradford memo,” one of several documents detailing the interogation techniques used by the U.S. intelligence community released last week by the Obama administration”  Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 (his first month in custody) alone. As noted repeatedly on this site and others over the years, ...

Prove It
The Mahablog — ... We’ve learned that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in one month. This begs the question: If torture is so good at extracting information, why did it need to be applied 183 times in one month? ...

Torture Documents: Who Cares Part II
Pirate's Cove — ... seems to be reserved for those who want to destroy the United States (come to think of it, Leftists want to do the same thing, just without the beheadings, true torture, suicide bombings, and mass killings. Though they do threaten violence, they just don’t have the stones for it) And they are still obsessed. Glenn “Sock Puppet” Greenwald is on his 1,287th update. The Democratic Underground has thread after thread after thread. And Emptywheelat Firedoglake, the home of the Joe Lieberman in blackface ...

Torture Documents: Who Cares Part II
Stop The ACLU — ... but all their compassion seems to be reserved for those who want to destroy the United States (come to think of it, Leftists want to do the same thing, just without the beheadings, true torture , suicide bombings, and mass killings. Though they do threaten violence, they just don’t have the stones for it) And they are still obsessed. Glenn “Sock Puppet” Greenwald is on his 1,287th update. The Democratic Underground has thread after thread after thread. And Emptywheel at Firedoglake, the home of the Joe Lieberman in blackface picture, hand ...

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Waterboarded 183 Times One Month
PoliGazette — Or so says liberal blogger EmptyWheel at least: According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo explains: ...

183 times
Political Animal — 183 TIMES.... Marcy Wheeler scrutinized some of the Bush administration's torture memos and discovered a striking statistic . According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. [...] [T]two two-hour sessions a day, with six applications of the waterboard each = 12 applications in a day. Though to get up to the permitted 12 minutes of waterboarding in a day (with each use of the waterboard limited to 40 seconds), you'd need 18 applications in a day. Assuming you ...

Memo To Handwringing Short-Twisters
Jules Crittenden — ...  makes interesting reading, notes the extensive limitations on the use of waterboarding and other measures, and includes a lot of legal opining on precedents. Lefty outrage cherry-picking  fails to note the CIA’s assertion that this was done solely for the purposes of extracting actionable intelligence from high-value subjects, not for purposes of punishment or extracting confessions, and that a great deal of actionable intelligence reportedly was obtained. Also fails to note that, in accordance with CIA guidelines, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who apparently was subjected to the ...

Debunking the Torture Apologists’ “Half the Intelligence” Claim
Firedoglake — ... image courtesy of quapan In another thread, Bob Schacht wrote, BTW, according to CNN, Haynes and Mukasey are claiming that “half” of what we “know” about Al Qaeda came from torture sessions. Did they really ...

The Frequently Ticking Time Bomb
Matthew Yglesias — ... Marcy Wheeler offers some close reading and observes that “According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002.” ...

KSM Waterboarded 183 Times in One Month
Drudge Retort — Sunday, April 19, 2009 KSM Waterboarded 183 Times in One Month According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. Posted by ...

Hayden: The Torture Memos Show The ‘Outer Limits’ That ‘Any American’ Would Go To In Interrogations
Think Progress — ... Host Chris Wallace also asked Hayden about the revelation that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003, based on information released in the new torture memos. Hayden claimed that such information had not been made public and refused to confirm or deny the accounts. ...

I'm sorry, but if you waterboard someone 183 times in a month, you are nothing but one sick fucker
Brilliant at Breakfast — 183 times? In ONE MONTH? According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo explains: ...

Bush Administration Torture Details: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Waterboarded 183 Times
The Moderate Voice — Even though some Bush administration officials and lawyers are trying to finesse it, the bottom line is that waterboarding is now widely perceived to not just be torture now but to have been torture when it occurred. The issue now has been whether it’s permissible and actually “useful” in getting solid information or not. But now another issue has emerged: I’ve put this detail in a series of posts, but it really deserves a full post. According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh ...

Question 3: 183 Times
PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts — Emptywheel notes via the Bradbury memo that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Waterboarded 183 Times in One Month So, controlled drowning (it isn’t “simulated”-it just never reaches completion) 183 times in a month isn’t torure?

183
Paul Krugman — Back from a partly medical absence. Before I do some economics posts, I think I ought to say something about the torture memos — namely, that there is now no way to view the people who ruled us these past 8 years as anything but monsters. We had all these rationalizations of torture over the “ticking clock” and all that — then we learn, for example, that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in one month . I really don’t even want to think about all this. But this was our government — and these people might be back.

Hullabaloo — ... Never mind the moral backflips you have to make to let people off the hook for torture. Never mind the fact that the interrogators did not even follow the guidelines and meager safeguards set out in the OLC memos - Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in one month. Let's put all of that aside for a second. Rahm Emanuel is calling on the President and the Justice Department to ...

Megyn Kelly Hosts Dubious “Democratic Strategist” Who Criticizes Obama's Release Of OLC Memos
News Hounds — ... But Kelly failed to report that, as Marcy Wheeler noted, the memos show Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in one month, which raises the question of their effectiveness. Also, with regard to another detainee, Abu Zubaida, the ...

183
Suburban Guerrilla — ... Back from a partly medical absence. Before I do some economics posts, I think I ought to say something about the torture memos — namely, that there is now no way to view the people who ruled us these past 8 years as anything but monsters. We had all these rationalizations of torture over the “ticking clock” and all that — then we learn, for example, that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in one month. ...

The CIA IG Report: Is Waterboarding KSM 183 Times Really Effective?
Firedoglake — I think I've finally gotten some folks to to pay attention to the OLC Memo revelation that KSM was waterboarded 183 times in a month. In that post, I suggested that if it took 183 uses of waterboarding to make KSM comply with interrogators wishes, then waterboarding is far less effective than the CIA would like us to believe. It appears the CIA IG was raising the number of times KSM was waterboarded in the same context I am--to question the efficacy of waterboarding someone that many times.  As I described last night, Steven Bradbury spends ...

They Waterboarded Him 183 Times In One Month
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan — ... of legality: [W]here authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of water appliaction. See id. at 42.  Additionally, the waterboard may be used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period. As emptywheel notes, So: two two-hour sessions a day, with six applications of the ...

I'm Without Words Here...
Corrente — ... Initial news reports about the memos in The New York Times and other publications did not include the numbers, but several bloggers, including Marcy Wheeler of the emptywheel blog, discovered the numbers over the weekend. ...

Napolitano stands by DHS report conclusion that right-wing extremist groups are targeting vets.
The Hollywood Liberal — ... .” Host Chris Wallace also asked Hayden about the revelation that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003, based on information released in the new torture memos. Hayden claimed that such information had not been made public and refused to confirm or deny the accounts. This entry was posted on Monday, April 20th, 2009 at 4:32 am and is filed under ...

Early Morning Swim
Firedoglake — ... Bush's great victory is the gift that keeps giving. 266 and 183. Alberto Holder? A wiretapping scandal? The Obama Doctrine, in a nutshell. Uh, John Ensign? Dude, get a grip. Columbine, 10 years later. The Village debates torture. Share

Good thing some bloggers read the memo.
Althouse — ... The new information on the number of waterboarding episodes came out over the weekend when a number of bloggers, including Marcy Wheeler of the blog emptywheel, discovered it in the May 30, 2005, [Justice Department] memo. ...

NYT Confirms Marcy’s Story: Khalid Sheik Mohammed Waterboarded 183 Times in One Month
Firedoglake — Scott Shane in the New York Times picks up Marcy's story regarding KSM being waterboarded 183 times in one month: ...

McCain Reacts To KSM Being Waterboarded 183 Times: ‘One Is Too Much. Waterboarding Is Torture’
Think Progress — ... This morning on Fox News, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) responded to the startling information — first noted by blogger Marcy Wheeler — that detainee Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was ...

Former Secretary of Torture to Obama: Dude, I thought you were cool
pandagon.net - we are the public option — ... You see, letting the terrorists know that all we’re willing to do is waterboard someone 183 times in one month is really just proving that we’re dilettantes, unwilling to do what it takes to keep ourselves safe. ...

Torture Takeaway: It's Not Effective
TalkLeft — ... noted, Marcy Wheeler of Empty Wheel broke the story of the number of times the C.I.A. used waterboarding on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah. Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in a month. That's an average of 6 times a day. ...

266
The Republic of T. — ... was apparently used on these two suspects may cast doubt on past Bush administration assertions that they were strictly obeying guidelines on the use of the practice, says the Times. It also notes that “a footnote to another 2005 Justice Department memo released Thursday said waterboarding was used both more frequently and with a greater volume of water than the CIA rules permitted.” There’s nothing I can add to what’s been said since the story broke in the blogosphere over the weekend. Really. Well, except to ask one question: ...

After Calling Waterboarding Torture In December, David Rivkin Pens Op-Ed Defending Its Use
Think Progress — ... — although the CIA orally informed Justice Department lawyers that it would likely not be used for more than 20 seconds at a time. Unlike the exaggerated claims of so many Bush critics, the memos make clear that water was not actually expected to enter the detainee’s lungs, and that measures were put in place to prevent complications if this did happen and to ensure that the individual did not develop respiratory distress. But as Marcy Wheeler first noted and the New York Times reports today, the OLC memos actually ...

Whitewashing Torture
The Nation: Top Stories — Ok, I understand these are hard-working civil servants. A lot of them do wonderful, conscientious, vital work, etc. I understand the importance for a new president to show he supports them, "feels their pain," etc. But his whitewashing of the past was pretty disgusting. He said something to the extent of "mistakes that were potentially made in the past." Sorry. That's not good enough. Not at all. Forcing water down someone's throat to trigger the drowning reflex six times a day every day for a month is not a "mistake potentially made in the past," and no degree of euphemism, ...

Digg: “Fair Use” or Stealing Content?
Firedoglake — ... I was trying to figure out why Marcy's very important post on KSM being waterboarded 183 times in one month went nuclear on Digg, but she wasn't seeing any traffic from it on her site. Turns out there's a reason: ...

Torture? Just Walk On By …
Opinionator — ... ,” she said yesterday on ABC’s This Week, about the information contained in the four memos. “Some of life has to be mysterious.” For some on the right, however, the numbers of times two suspects were waterboarded, first revealed by Marcy Wheeler on Saturday , has had an effect. “I’ve always been on the fence about whether waterboarding constituted torture,” ...

Waterboarding “Guidelines” and CIA Prosecutions
The Moderate Voice — ... Marcy Wheeler’s Saturday piece reporting that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah were waterboarded a total of at least 266 times has caught a lot of well-deserved attention — most notably from Scott Shane, who ...

Phil Bronstein: I'll See Your 183 Waterboardings and Raise You an Iron Maiden...
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com — ... The real surprise for me was that the only reason this is coming up at all right now is because, unlike previous White Houses, the last one actually decided to memorialize in policy memos not just the fact of this kind of treatment but also the specific prescriptions -- "no more than three dunkings during waterboarding...", etc." It's like someone was just asking to be, uh, nailed for this by leaving their fingerprints in the hot wax. Whatever happened to, " ...

The Fine Print Of Cheney's Complaint
Swampland — ... There is certainly lots of information that has not yet been declassified, but Cheney is wrong to suggest that the released documents fail to describe the reported success of the harsh treatment. The May 30, 2005 memo by Steven Bradbury (download here) includes pages of description of the benefits of harsh interrogation, which are ...

Identified: 2007 OLC Torture Memo Still Not Released
Firedoglake — ... attempting to reconcile the CIA's "enhanced interrogation program" with the Geneva Conventions' Common Article 3? As it turns out, the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel issued guidance to the CIA about what that executive order meant they could and couldn't do to a detainee. And that guidance remains undisclosed, despite last week's release of the OLC memos that Marcy ...

Chuck Todd Depicts Support For Torture Investigations As Fringe Phenomenon
The Huffington Post | Full News Feed — ... , published over the weekend, that documents the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah. All of the enterprise reporting for the article was done by blogger Marcy Wheeler, of Emptywheel. Good thing, too! It's not like the Times, in possession of the same memos, noticed the story. ...

Never Again? That’ll be Quite a Speech, Mr. President
Firedoglake — ... Like I said, good luck with that speech, Mr./Ms. Speechwriter. But here's a hint: I wouldn't mention the number "183" either. And when you really get down in the dumps, just tell yourself that it could be worse: the OLC opinions only sanctioned torture, not genocide. ...

Chuck Todd is the one who is way, way, way out of touch on the issue of investigating the torturers
AMERICAblog News| A great nation deserves the truth — ... , published over the weekend, that documents the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah. All of the enterprise reporting for the article was done by blogger Marcy Wheeler, of Emptywheel. Good thing, too! It's not like the Times, in possession of the same memos, noticed the story. ...

Mark Danner Schools David Gergen on CIA Torture
At-Largely — ... of Bush administration CIA torture tactics released by the Obama administration. Host Anderson Cooper and Danner first discussed the CIA torture memos, which included techniques such as waterboarding (as much as 183 times on one detainee in the same month ), sleep deprivation for up to eleven straight days, and placement in a "confinement box" in which "stinging insects" were tossed to terrorize but not cause "death or severe pain." Then Gergen opined: GERGEN: At the same time, he [President Obama] made a very, very calibrated decision; we're not going to prosecute those ...

They Tortured to get their War of Choice
Firedoglake — ... This was speculated upon since Marcy noted the 183 waterboardings of KSM in March 2003. What was going on in March 2003? McClatchy: ...

The SASC Smoking Gun on Waterboarding
Firedoglake — ... But, as we know, that's not how waterboarding was done in practice. The IG Report noted that in some cases the waterboard was used with far greater frequency than initially indicated, see IG Report at 5, 44, 46, 103-04, and also that it ...

How the Bush administration waterboarded a low-level operative, who was brain-damaged, 83 times
AMERICAblog News| A great nation deserves the truth — Last Saturday, Marcy Wheeler broke the news about the extensive waterboarding of two captured terror suspects: I've put this detail in a series of posts, but it really deserves a full post. According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo explains: The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times ...

Liz Cheney Claims Waterboading Isn’t Torture Because Similar Tactics Were Used In SERE Training
Think Progress — ... Finally, there is no credible way that Cheney can claim that trainees undergoing waterboarding during SERE training had it applied to them with "the frequency and intensity with which it was used" on detainees. As Marcy Wheeler pointed out, one of the released memos revealed that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002. ...

Did Obama Listen to His Own Holocaust Speech?
Firedoglake — ... And then Obama spoke about about numbers. Not just 6 million dead, but 7200 who escaped through Denmark, another 5000 who were protected in Le Chambon, France. (Funny, no mention of 183.) Speaking of those French villagers, Obama said ...

The Rules of Waterboarding
Weekly Standard Blog — ... When you rely on somebody named "emptywheel" for your news, you're unlikely to get a straight story. But when emptywheel "reported" that KSM had been waterboarded 183 times, he/she failed to convey what precisely that meant. ...

Finding Justice
Daily Kos — ... waterboard, which inflicts no pain or actual harm whatsoever, does not, in our view inflict "severe pain or suffering." Even if one were to parse the statute more finely to attempt to treat "suffering" as a distinct concept, the waterboard could not be said to inflict severe suffering.  The waterboard is simply a controlled acute episode, lacking the connotation of a protracted period of time generally given to suffering. (p. 11) Marcy Wheeler, April 18, 2009 "Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu ...

Torture, Schmorture
Crooked Timber — ... abhorrent is obviously rather limited. Crook’s preferred approach of ‘mistakes were made’ is effective capitulation to the pro-torture side. Obviously, torture shouldn’t be a partisan issue, but that it is tells us an awful lot about the shape that the Republican party is in today. Second, his guff about how no journalists or Youtubers have volunteered to be flayed or have their fingers crushed seems to me to be actively disingenuous. According to the Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March ...

Priest: The Post Doesn’t Call Waterboarding ‘Torture’ Because ‘The Bush Administration Would Dispute That’
Think Progress — ... ) admitted that it had authorized waterboarding on three terror suspect detainees, and the Bush-era Office of Legal Counsel memos released earlier this month confirm it. ...

FEMA removes ‘scary? 9/11 coloring book from its website.
The Hollywood Liberal — ... ) admitted that it had authorized waterboarding on three terror suspect detainees, and the Bush-era Office of Legal Counsel memos released earlier this month confirm it . Note to The Washington Post: The reason many former Bush administration officials who were involved in authorizing waterboarding don’t call it “torture” is because they would be admitting to a crime punishable with long prison sentences. Presumably, they make this argument because the do not want to go to jail. As Media Matters’ Jamison Foser ...

Supporting the New Journalism
Firedoglake — ... We started this discussion in earnest a little over two weeks ago when Marcy Wheeler scooped the world by revealing that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Waterboarded 183 Times in One Month and Abu-Zubaydah 83 times. Marcy didn't get handed the information by a governmental press flack and she didn't print it as a result of a leak from some coddled and conflicted secret source with an agenda. Nope, she did it the old fashioned way, she earned it by doing the tedious grunt work of reading the memos and documents. The very work the traditional press shirked. Perhaps they couldn't fit ...

Two Cheneys are worse than one
Political Animal — ... you wouldn't do it?" Liz Cheney asked. "You would let him go ahead and launch the attack? Eugene, that's exactly the situation these folks were in." That's total nonsense, for all the reasons sensible people already know. We can rattle them off in our sleep: we've always prosecuted waterboarding as torture; these hypothetical "24" fantasies aren't realistic; if waterboarding were such an effective torture technique, it wouldn't have been necessary to use it on Khalid Sheikh Muhammad 183 times ...

The Enhanced Ticking Technique Timebomb
Firedoglake — ... Chalk up example number, 267 of torture that was for self-justification only -- or since we're dealing with Cheney, Libby & Addington, ...

"Dick!"
Rising Hegemon — ... Chalk up example number, 267 of torture that was for self-justification only -- or since we're dealing with Cheney, Libby & Addington, ...

Wilkerson v. Cheney
democracyarsenal.org — ... in the March 2003 were attempts at establishing a link that did not exist.   What is most incredible is that when the interrogators came back without the result that Cheney wanted and even recommended ending the torture, Cheney ordered the continuation of the abuses. From a logistical point of view, this is exaclty why we do not use torture.  It is unreliable. People will tell you whatever you want to hear. And obviously the Vice President wanted to hear something specific and was not going to stop until he heard exactly that.  ...

CIA IG Report to be Released June 19; More Torture Revelations Coming?
Firedoglake — ... The detail that Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in a month, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 183, got into the OLC memo via the CIA IG Report released May 2004. So, too, did the reports that CIA interrogators exceeded the guidelines laid out in the Bybee Two memo. And the conclusion that the torture couldn't be said to have stopped any attacks? That was in the CIA IG Report, too. ...

The Story of Mohammed Al-Qahtani
The Hollywood Liberal — The Story of Mohammed Al-Qahtani I’ve mentioned high-value terrorists. I wrote about Abu Zubaydah , Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or Mohammed Al-Qahtani (most of this story comes from Jane Mayer’s book, The Dark Side ). In August 2001, prior to September 11, Al-Qahtani arrived at the Orlando airport in Florida. He had $2800 in cash and no luggage. He came here on a one-way ticket from Saudi Arabia and was refused entry into the country. Further detective work, after 9/11, showed that Mohammed Atta was waiting for him in the parking lot. Al Qahtani ...

The Story of Mohammed Al-Qahtani
LiberalOasis : The Blog — I've mentioned high-value terrorists. I wrote about Abu Zubaydah, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or Mohammed Al-Qahtani (most of this story comes from Jane Mayer's book, The Dark Side). In August 2001, prior to September 11, Al-Qahtani arrived at the Orlando airport in Florida. He had $2800 in cash and no luggage. He came here on a one-way ticket from Saudi Arabia and was refused entry into the country. Further detective work, after 9/11, showed that Mohammed Atta was waiting for him in the parking lot. Al Qahtani was ...

REPORT: Key Terror Detainee Acknowledged ‘I Make Up Stories’ In Response To Torture
Think Progress — ... to the CIA after withstanding torture: “I make up stories,” Mohammed said, describing in broken English an interrogation probably administered by the CIA that concerned the location of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. “Where is he? I don’t know. Then he torture me,” Mohammed said. “Then I said, ‘Yes, he is in this area.’ “ The torture of Mohammed, who we know was waterboarded 183 times in one month, “underscores the unreliability of statements obtained ...

And If He Doesn’t Confess to Being a CIA Agent, Waterboard the Shit out of Him
Firedoglake — ... wherein the CIA vouched for the accuracy of information it obtained from torturing Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah. It would be nice to see those documents. But what could they possibly indicate other than that the agency told Dick Cheney what he wanted to hear about a cherished interrogation program? Or are we to believe that Khalid Shaikh Mohammed is lying about having lied? His diabolical skills of deception are just that good? Waterboarding him 183 times, ...

In April 2003, after Waterboarding Him 183 Times, the CIA Admitted KSM Was Lying to Them
Firedoglake — ... In March 2003, the CIA subjected Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to the most brutal of its torture techniques. Over the course of that month, we know, the CIA waterboarded Khalid Shaikh Mohammed 183 times. ...

On the Rule of Law and Crimes of Torture
Firedoglake — ... to build and execute the regime that led to detainees being waterboarded serially 183 times in one month, a crime the US has historically prosecuted as a war crime in conflict situations and as a domestic crime at home. Others we have tortured and then ...

Tortured Logic: Government’s Own Words Fail Our National Ideals
Firedoglake — ... The torture memos produced by the OLC were never meant to be seen and parsed by the public. These memos used incredibly tortured logic to justify acts which, in prior wars, the United States prosecuted as war crimes. The ACLU has put together a video of these words of tortured logic being read aloud. Watch it. The words you are hearing were written by and for the US government. As guidance for governmental agencies acting in all of our ...

Tortured Logic: In The Government’s Own Words
Commondreams.org Views — The torture memos produced by the OLC were never meant to be seen and parsed by the public. These memos used incredibly tortured logic to justify acts which, in prior wars , the United States prosecuted as war crimes . The ACLU has put together a video of these words of tortured logic being read aloud.  Watch it. The words you are hearing were written by and for the US government. As guidance for governmental agencies acting in all of our names. The ACLU is asking that you send these words to Attorney ...

Dick Cheney: CIA Documents Disprove Torture Claims
The Latest on Air America — ... create during Bush II, there is a glimmer of light from CIA documents obtained by the Washington Independent. Cheney claimed the same documents proved torture works. The documents do no such thing, in fact, they actually disprove the former Halliburton CEO's claims regarding the efficacy of torture, suggesting that less intrusive measures work better. The first document, issued by the CIA in July 2004 is about the interrogation of 9/11 architect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and whom, ...

This Day In Newspapers And Their Pointless Journalistic Endeavors
The Huffington Post | Full News Feed — ... Nevertheless, while the needfulness on display makes the New York Times look sort of dotty, the monitoring of blogs at least fulfills a need. Knowing that blogger Marcy Wheeler had written about the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah ...

FDL Book Salon Welcomes David Cole, Torture Memos: Rationalizing the Unthinkable
Firedoglake —

With His Children Still Missing, KSM’s Torture Continues
Firedoglake — ... The treatment of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed while in American custody presents problems for his criminal trial. As pointed out by Marcy Wheeler, he was waterboarded 183 times in a period of less than a month. The rules of evidence in federal courts prevent the inclusion of testimony delivered under duress, so any statement made by KSM as a result of waterboarding will be excluded as a matter of law. It seems to me that a good defense attorney will be able to argue that any statement by KSM made against his self-interest at any time after his waterboarding could be considered to ...

Situational Justice
The Moderate Voice — ... Got that? Andy McCarthy — a former federal prosecutor — demonstrates his legal expertise: Pleading guilty and asking to be executed obviates the need for a trial. That’s how it works in our system, right? You plead guilty to murder; you forfeit the right to a trial, and go straight to the gurney to get your lethal injection. And look: KSM even confessed — after he was waterboarded 183 times in one month — to beheading Daniel Pearl, and to plotting to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge, and to pretty much every ...