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Lieberman: Sure, I'd Filibuster Health Care Reform http://bit.ly/4mBiqY 23 days ago |
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Lieberman: Sure, I'd Filibuster A Health Care Reform Bill With A Public Option http://bit.ly/FDdmT 25 days ago |
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Talking Points Memo —
Lieberman: Sure, I'll filibuster a health care reform bill I don't agree with. And I don't agree with it as it is now.
In other news, Sen. Blanche Lincoln today spoke out against the public option and the bill Sen. Reid (D-NV) announced yesterday. But revealingly, she did not say one way or another how she would vote on cloture (where the Dems need 60 votes), which is the key question.
I'd say it's assumed that, if the Dems are going to win this, several of the centrist and conservative Dems will vote no on the bill itself (where they only need 50) ...
Lieberman Says He’ll Filibuster Health Care Reform If Public Option Remains
Think Progress —
... there’s a “danger in doing too much.”
In remarks to reporters today, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) moved closer to siding with Republicans and actively blocking reform. Lieberman gave a wishy-washy response, stating that while he was “inclined” to vote to allow health care reform legislation to be debated on the Senate floor, he would “vote against cloture” if “the bill stays as it is now.” TPMDC has Lieberman’s comments:
“I told Senator Reid that I’m strongly inclined — ...
Bonus Quote of the Day
PoliPundit.com —
Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT), on Harry Reid’s version of Obamacare:
“I told Senator Reid that I’m strongly inclined–i haven’t totally decided, but I’m strongly inclined–to vote to proceed to the health care debate, even though I don’t support the bill that he’s bringing together because it’s important that we start the debate on health care reform because I want to vote for health care reform this year. But I also told him that if the bill remains what it is now, I will ...
F U Joe Lieberman
Delaware Liberal —
Joe Lieberman announces that he may filibuster the health care reform bill with the Republicans because he doesn’t like it: “I told Senator Reid that I’m strongly inclined–i haven’t totally decided, but I’m strongly inclined–to vote to proceed to the health care debate, even though I don’t support the bill that he’s bringing together because it’s important that we start the debate on health care reform because I want to vote for health care reform this year. But I also told him that if the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final ...
Gaming Out Joe's Threat
Talking Points Memo —
... Note that [Lieberman] says he would vote to proceed to the bill -- just not to move to final passage.
There will be several turning points: ...
Lieberman vows to filibuster bill with public option
Political Animal —
LIEBERMAN VOWS TO FILIBUSTER BILL WITH PUBLIC OPTION.... He's with Democrats on everything except foreign policy? I don't think so . Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) told reporters today that he would in fact filibuster any health care bill he doesn't agree with -- and right now, he doesn't agree with the proposal making its way through the Senate. "I told Senator Reid that I'm strongly inclined -- I haven't totally decided, but I'm strongly inclined -- to vote to proceed to the health care debate, even though I don't support the bill that he's bringing together because it's ...
Lieberman: Sure, I'd Filibuster A Health Care Reform Bill With A Public Option
Democratic Underground Latest Breaking News —
... filibuster, but it's quite plausible that this health care bill will have to contend with it. Lieberman is saying that he's pretty much OK with letting senators offer amendments--try to change the legislation, move it in any direction they deem necessary. But when that process is all over, and Harry Reid wants to hold an up or down vote on the final product, Lieberman's saying he'll join that filibuster, if he's not happy with the finished product. Point blank. Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/lieberman-su... One word that perfectly describes Lieberman: ...
Did Lieberman Kill The Public Option?
Wonk Room —
... ,” Lieberman said that he was “inclined” to vote to allow health care reform legislation to be debated on the Senate floor, but would “vote against cloture” if “the bill stays as it is now.” TPMDC has Lieberman’s comments: ...
Lieberman Says He’ll Filibuster Health Bill; What’s Obama Going to Do?
Firedoglake —
Lieberman says he’ll join a Republican filibuster if he’s not happy with the final Senate bill: ...
Beutler vs Lieberman
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan —
My favorite line:
I asked him to square his rationale with the experts' consensus, but he was undeterred.
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Will Joe Lieberman filibuster?
Ezra Klein —
... I don't know why I don't take Joe Lieberman's threat to filibuster health-care reform more seriously, but I just don't. Take what Lieberman told reporters today: ...
M.S. Bellows, Jr.: How Lieberman Stole Reid's Candy & Drank Snowe's Milkshake
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com —
... When Reid made his happy announcement, I assumed he had cut a deal with Lieberman to guarantee his vote on cloture, because it would be foolish beyond foolishness to abandon Snowe without knowing -- KNOWING -- that Lieberman's vote was secure. And now we learn that Reid was foolish, and Lieberman's vote was not secure, and healthcare reform may well be dead. Lieberman said today: ...
Oh my: Lieberman vows to filibuster Reid’s ObamaCare bill
Hot Air » Top Picks —
... vote to block a floor vote on the bill if it isn’t changed first… “I can’t see a way in which I could vote for cloture on any bill that contained a creation of a government-operated-run insurance company,” Lieberman added. “It’s just asking for trouble – in the end, the taxpayers are going to pay and probably all people will have health insurance are going to see their premiums go up because there’s going to be cost shifting as there has been for Medicare and Medicaid.” TPM has a short useful summary of what this means procedurally. Essentially, there are two cloture votes ...
Lieberman Intends to Filibuster HCR With Public Option
The Moderate Voice —
This is what Democrats in Congress get for allowing Lieberman to keep his prestigi0us committee chair assignment.
Brian Beutler explains what this means procedurally:
There are two procedural issues at play here. Most people think of a filibuster as a minority blocking passage of a bill that’s already been debated ad nauseum on the Senate floor. That’s the most standard filibuster. But on major legislation, it’s become more common for the ...
FLASHBACK: Lieberman pledged support for health reform
Daily Kos —
Liar: October 27, 2009: If the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final passage. Therefore I will try to stop the passage of the bill. October 23, 2006: I've been working on health insurance reform for more than a dozen years. ... I have offered a comprehensive program. Small business health insurance reform, plus something I call MediKids to cover all the children in America on a sliding ...
Senator Lieberpoison (er, Lieberman) says he'll filibuster healthcare reform bill
Northwest Progressive Institute Advocate —
Sorry about the name calling in the title, but... what a jerk! Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) told reporters today that he would in fact filibuster any health care bill he doesn't agree with--and right now, he doesn't agree with the public option proposal making its way through the Senate. "I told Senator Reid that I'm strongly inclined -- I haven't totally decided, but I'm strongly inclined--to vote to proceed to the health care debate, even though I don't support the bill that he's bringing together because it's important that we start the debate on health ...
Time to lay down the hammer, Harry
Daily Kos —
... Any way you cut it, Joe Lieberman's filibuster threat doesn't make Harry Reid look good...unless Reid has some secret plan to force Lieberman on board (which nobody seems to think he has). ...
Lieberman Lies, Trad Media Doesn't Care
Daily Kos —
... They'd much rather talk about the personalities. They only pay attention to CBO scores when those scores create a fight, preferably between Dems, so that they can dust off the "Dems in Disarray" theme. These news outlets won't spend the time or the energy to understand the very basics of policies. They certainly don't know or really even care that a robust pubic option makes fiscal sense for the economy, and good policy sense as well. For what it's worth, Brian Beutler tried to push Lieberman on this. It didn't work. This is at great odds ...
Quote of the Day
Shakesville —
"If the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final passage. Therefore I will try to stop the passage of the bill."—Senator Joe Lieberman (I-Lieberman), telling reporters today that he will filibuster any healthcare bill he doesn't like, and he doesn't like any healthcare bill with a public option. ...
Mr. President...Senator Reid.....Happy now?
Brilliant at Breakfast —
... Yes, Joe Lieberman cares so much about working people that he is willing to filibuster with Republicans to keep them from getting health coverage from a plan that isn't a protection racket. ...
So What Happened Today?
Talking Points Memo —
... The big news today was that a series of moderate and conservative Democrats stepped forward with statements ranging from skepticism of Reid's bill to more or less open threats to filibuster it. The furthest out there was Joe Lieberman, who seemed to suggest that he'd allow some debate on the bill but later join a Republican filibuster to prevent the bill from actually coming to a vote so long as it remained in its current form. He hinted that remaining in its current form meant preserving the public option. Sens. ...
UPDATED: Joe Lieberman's healthcare plan for America
Attytood —
... , so extending that to Connecticut's roughly 3.5 million people, that would be about 1,000 every year just in the Nutmeg State alone. I wish Lieberman could be forced to explain his position to the families of every blessed one of the deceased.
State Blogs Weigh In on Joe Lieberman Filibuster Threat, “Opt-Out”
Firedoglake —
... The state-based progressive blogs are weighing in on Joe Lieberman’s filibuster threat, as well as on the “opt-out,” and overall it’s not pretty. Here’s a short sampling: ...
We need to know: Is there any limit to what Holy Joe Lieberman can get away with and still caucus with the Dems?
DownWithTyranny! —
... Of course the loathsome snotrag lies with every breath he draws. He's wholly owned by the Moneyed Interests. TPM's Brian Beutler tried to get him to deal, however fleetingly, with reality: ...
Joe Tool.
JackRabbit Café —
... Oh, yeah. From TalkingPointsMemo.com: ...
Hugs and Disses
BAGnewsNotes —
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Flipping. Flirting. Wedging.
(photo: Kevin Lamarque/Reuters. caption: U.S. President Barack Obama (L) is embraced by U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman after Obama delivered a primetime address to a joint session of the U.S. Congress on Capitol Hill in Washington, February 24, 2009.) ...
The Connecticut Manqué Returns
d r i f t g l a s s —
As God as my witness, I had hoped that I could retire this effing creepy graphic forever. But just in time for Halloween, American politics' most famous Quisling decided that there is still one square inch on the back of Liberalism that remained as yet unshivved. So, taking careful aim, Joe Lieberman did what Joe Lieberman does best: stuck the knife in. (via TPM) Lieberman: Sure, I'd Filibuster A Health Care Reform Bill With A Public Option Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) told reporters today that he would in ...
Reid Not Worried About Lieberman
Taylor Marsh —
... reform this year. But I also told him that if the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final passage. Therefore I will try to stop the passage of the bill.” – Lieberman: Sure, I’d Filibuster A Health Care Reform Bill With A Public Option ...
The Early Morning Public Option Report-- Can You Help?
DownWithTyranny! —
... -grabbing threat to join the filibuster of health care reform alone for a moment and assume Harry Reid can work that out with him. And let's close our eyes and imagine that Reid already told Blanche Lincoln that if she makes ...
Lieberman to support public option filibuster
The Reaction —
... For now, Lieberman is "strongly inclined" to support a Republican filibuster of any bill with a public option, but we know what that means. He's threatening to push his weight around, a single vote that could make all the difference, a single vote that ultimately could deny Democrats the 60 votes they would need to break a filibuster, and he wants reform either to be crafted according to his wishes or to be obstructed to the point where nothing meaningful is done at all, with the added benefit, to him, of the Democratic Party splintering. ...
Lieberman Going Rogue (Again)
Swampland —
... -- chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Relations Committee -- will begin his investigation into whether the Fort Hood shooter was a terrorist and if law enforcement agencies missed red flags that could've prevented the tragedy. This caps quite a month for Lieberman who a few weeks ago used his chairmanship to investigate the President's czars , announced he'd be campaigning for both Republican and Democratic candidates next year and swore he'd filibuster the health care bill if there's any version of a public option in it. ...
Trigger Happy
Swampland —
... . “Opt-in suggests it's voluntarily but with the hammer approach those states would have to opt-in on day one,” he said. The plan, on paper, would overcome Lieberman's objections to a government run plan and would seem to fit Snowe's criteria for a trigger. But, this is all a work in progress, Carper said. “Everyone will have a chance to see it and to offer suggestions." The most important thing, he added, is to find a compromise that can garner 60 votes in the Senate. Such an idea might make centrists happy, but it's sure to anger progressvies who thought Snowe's trigger -- ...
