Prop 8 Exit Polls
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan — ... They show a narrow victory for marriage equality: 52 to 48. Every ethnic group supported marriage equality, except African-Americans, who voted overwhelmingly against extending to gay people the civil rights once denied them: a staggering 69 - 31 percent African-American margin against marriage equality. That's worse than even I expected. Whites, on the other hand, clearly rejected discrimination: 55 to 45 percent. Latinos were evenly split. But what matters, of course, is the margin of all the votes. It's still an exit poll, and those polls sometimes under-estimate anti-gay ...

Proposition 8 Passes
GayPatriot — ... This is not as bleak as it seems.  We will revisit this matter.  And with young voters (age 18-29) opposing the measure by a margin of 63-37, the question of gay marriage is now only one of time. ...

Stripped Of The Right To Marry
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan — ... and enshrinement in California's constitution that gay couples are now second-class citizens and second class human beings. Massively funded by the Mormon church, a religious majority finally managed to put gay people back in our place in the biggest state of the union. The refusal of Schwarzenegger to really oppose the measure and Obama's luke-warm opposition didn't help. And cruelly, a very hefty black turnout, as feared, was one of the factors that defeated us, according to the exit poll. Today this is one of the solaces to a hard right and a Republican party that sees gay ...

Equality For Me, But Not For Thee
TalkLeft — ... with overwhelming African American and Latino support). Particularly troubling was the voting of African Americans in California (and to a lesser extent Latinos) - who voted 70-30 in favor of stripping gay Californians of their state based constitutional right to marry the person they love. ...

Jane Elliott, Call Your Agent*
Hit & Run — ... In California, the Proposition 8 ban on gay marriage actually failed among white voters, 51-49.  It was the 70 percent support from black voters that put the measure over the top. ...

Proposition 8
Daily Kos — ... But I doubt that happens anytime soon. So it's more likely that we'll get to do this all over again in 2010, fighting and arguing and spending tens of millions of dollars over whether it's still okay, in this day and age, to discriminate against an entire class of people. If nothing else, there will be more of us, and less of them in two years: ...

God Bless Markos
Interesting Times — ... give all couples civil union licenses. Gay or straight, it's irrelevant. Then leave the "marriage" thing up to individual churches. They can decide if they want to be bigots or not. But I doubt that happens anytime soon. So it's more likely that we'll get to do this all over again in 2010, fighting and arguing and spending tens of millions of dollars over whether it's still okay, in this day and age, to discriminate against an entire class of people. If nothing else, there will be more of us, and less of them in two years: ... That's why the Mormon Church and their bigoted ...

Open Thread
HorsesAss.Org — ... out of California. While African-Americans celebrated an unprecedented milestone in their centuries-long struggle for equality, African-American voters overwhelmingly voted for Proposition 8 to ban gay marriage. ...

Gautam Dutta: Marriage Equality: A Cup Half Full
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com — ... What gives? A number of African Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans, and Caucasians have not yet come to terms with gay marriage. Exit polls showed that whites were more favorable to Prop 8 than both African Americans (who supported it) and Latinos (who were divided). Specifically, 70 percent of African Americans and 53 percent of Latinos supported Prop 8, while 51 percent of Asian Americans and 51 percent of Caucasians opposed it. ...

Keeping the news in the closet
Classical Values — ... " and he does into some detail discussing something that isn't getting much play in the American press -- that black voters (many of whom were voting in unprecedently large numbers thanks to Barack Obama) voted overwhelmingly (70% to 30%) in favor of Proposition 8 . (To ban gay marriage in California.) The Prop 8 vote was 52% to 48% , and considering that blacks were 10% of the voters (yet 6.7% of the electorate), and far more in favor of the initiative than whites or Asians, it's quite likely that had Hillary Clinton been the nominee, Prop 8 would have been defeated. (A ...

Repeal DOMA &tc.
The Moderate Voice — ... Seventy percent of African American voters approved Prop 8, according to exit polls, compared to 53% of Latino voters, 49% of white voters, 49% of Asian voters. ...

Raymond Leon Roker: Stop Blaming California's Black Voters for Prop 8
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com — ... Excuse me? I voted against Proposition 8. I'm among the 30 percent of black Californians that did so. And as much as I can condemn the homophobia and intolerance that drove a portion of the 70 percent of blacks that voted in favor of Proposition 8's ban on gay marriage, it's an outrage to lay its passage at their feet. I've read several ...

And so it begins: New York Times attacks minority voters.
RedState: Conservative News and Community — ... As you can see from the above, the NYT is doing its best to describe this in terms of the right-wing. However, the actual numbers from the exit polls tell a somewhat different story (note that the estimated result is 53%/47%): ...

Raymond Leon Roker: An Open Letter on Prop 8: Enough with the Anti-Black Outrage
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com — ... about the racially characterized attacks against blacks by some in the gay community for what CNN exit polls said was a 70% vote in favor of Proposition 8. ...

Antisocial Conservatives
The American Spectator — ... That's not to say that more talk about abortion in the middle of an economic crisis would have made John McCain president, or that there aren't demographic and generational shifts that could reduce social conservatism's salience in the future. But there are demographic and generational factors that cut the other way too. California's constitutional amendment reversing same-sex  marriage did better among blacks and Hispanics than among whites. Black and Latino voters also broke for similar ballot initiatives in Florida and Arizona. African-Americans ...

Disgrasian: The Passage of Prop 8: Do the Math
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com — ... Of course, sometimes the interpretation of the numbers do. We got to thinking about that in the wake -- and we mean that in the funereal sense -- of the passage of Proposition 8, the gay marriage ban. Earlier in the week, we posted the CNN exit poll on how people voted, by race, on Prop 8. The number that jumps out at you is the 70% of African-American voters who supported the ban. There's been a lot of grumbling on the internet about how the passage of Prop 8 is the fault of black voters, with an implicit (and sometimes ...

Prop 8 Myths
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right — ... Certainly, the No on 8 folks might have done a better job of outreach to California's black and Latino communities. But the notion that Prop 8 passed because of the Obama turnout surge is silly. Exit polls suggest that first-time voters -- the vast majority of whom were driven to turn out by Obama (he won 83 percent [!] of their votes) -- voted against Prop 8 by a 62-38 margin. More experienced voters voted for the measure 56-44, however, providing for its passage. ...

Wasting time
Interesting Times — ... . Certainly, the No on 8 folks might have done a better job of outreach to California's black and Latino communities. But the notion that Prop 8 passed because of the Obama turnout surge is silly. Exit polls suggest that first-time voters -- the vast majority of whom were driven to turn out by Obama (he won 83 percent [!] of their votes) -- voted against Prop 8 by a 62-38 margin. More experienced voters voted for the measure 56-44, however, providing for its passage. I don't think anyone seriously disputes that there is an outreach problem between the GLBT and black ...

Tony Perkins Claims Gay Marriage Ban Is ‘Totally Different’ Than Interracial Marriage Ban
Think Progress — ... Finally, Perkins flatly denied that young people voted against Prop. 8: “It’s not a majority,” he said. According to CNN exit polls, an overwhelming majority — 67 percent — of 18-29 year-olds voted against stripping gay couples of their right to marry. ...

Some things never change
QandO — A New York Times headline today: "Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage" Total Mormon population in California: 750,000 (1.9%) Total Black population in California (2007) 2,242,188 (6.7%) Total Latino population in California: 13 million (35.9%) Prop 8 exit polling info: Blacks voted 70/30 "Yes" Latinos voted 53/47 "Yes" Between them, ...

Gay Rights, Gay Rage
The American Spectator — ... at African-Americans (who voted 3-to-1 in favor of Prop 8, according to exit polls) -- their vitriolic rage highlighted how the progressive rhetoric of "rights" undermines and destabilizes political consensus. ...

Two Daddies?
James Richardson's Skepticians — ... , and plays even worse with young voters, 61% of which voted against stripping gay couples of the right to marry. To my dissenters, let me be clear, I am not advocating some sort of radical “judicial activism.” I maintain that judicial resolution to these matters (adoption, marriage, etc) typically leads to ...

Gay Adoption vs Fostering in Florida
PoliGazette — ... is at a crossroads and now is not the time for an echo chamber. Homosexual demagoguery is not the answer to the Party’s woes, particularly when gay men and women represent the only demographic in which John McCain bested President Bush (27% to 19% based on exit polling). And as Daniel Blatt notes, gay-hostile rhetoric no longer resonates in suburban areas with soccer moms, many of whom have gay friends or family members, and plays even worse with young voters, 61% of which voted against stripping gay couples of the right to marry. I ...

Your Abbreviated Pundit Round-up
Daily Kos — ... , although with everyone other than blacks, there's clearly a generational split.  But we forgot to say so. [The full Prop 8 exit poll is here.] ...

Stewart Grills Huckabee On Gay Marriage: ‘At What Age Did You Choose Not To Be Gay?’
Think Progress — ... favor either gay marriage or civil unions, with nearly 50 percent favoring gay marriage itself. More importantly, the next generation is much more open to gay rights: According to CNN exit polls, an overwhelming majority — 67 percent — of 18-29 year-olds voted against stripping gay couples of their right to marry in California. ...

Prop. 8 Challenged In Court...And At The Voting Booth?
The Atlantic Politics Channel — ... Those smaller groups could be important to passing a new ballot measure, given that, according to exit polling, African Americans and Hispanics voted in favor of Prop. 8, by 70 percent and 53 percent, respectively. The LGBT minority in California will have to reach out to other minority groups that opposed them in 2008, and race/ethnic-specific groups are looking to do some of that legwork. ...

Gay marriage advocates look to the 2012 ballot
Jeff Mapes on Politics —