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Obama Considering Unconstitutional Imposition Of Preventive Detention Policy
TalkLeft —
Glenn Greenwald: When Obama first unveiled his "preventive detention" policy, many defenders praised him (and claimed he was different than Bush) because of his vow that -- as he put it -- "my Administration will work with Congress to develop an appropriate legal regime." But now, relying exclusively on three Obama officials speaking behind a veil of anonymity, Peter Finn and Dafner Linza of The Washington Post and ProPublica report that the White House is "crafting language for an executive order that would reassert presidential authority to ...
Ultimate UO Blogging
Unqualified Offerings —
By Thoreau 1) Obama is going down a very wrong path on civil liberties : He’ll give suspects a trial, but only if he thinks he can get a conviction. Haven’t had some good Obama hate for a while. 2) ...
Bushism on Steroids: Obama Drafts Executive Order for Indefinite Detention
Tennessee Guerilla Women —
... Glen Greenwald warns: "There has now emerged a very clear -- and very disturbing -- pattern whereby Obama is willing to use legal mechanisms and recognize the authority of other branches only if he's assured that he'll get the outcome he wants. If he can't get what he wants from those processes, he'll just assert Bush-like unilateral powers to bypass those processes and do what he wants anyway." ...
The Harsh Light Of This Reality Hurts My Eyes
Suburban Guerrilla —
Glenn Greenwald:
There has now emerged a very clear — and very disturbing — pattern whereby Obama is willing to use legal mechanisms and recognize the authority of other branches only if he’s assured that he’ll get the outcome he wants. If he can’t get what he wants from those processes, he’ll just assert Bush-like unilateral powers to bypass those processes and do what he wants anyway.
In other words, what distinguishes Obama from the first-term Bush is that Obama is willing to indulge the ...
Hullabaloo — ... Glenn writes about the trial balloon being floated that Obama is considering issuing an executive order for preventive detention. He points out that the main difference between this administration and the last is that this administration is pretending to care about what the congress wants (and the constitution requires) but goes ahead and does what they intend to do anyway if the congress fails to act as they wish it to. ...
Obama, Like Bush, Wrong On Indefinite Detention
Newshoggers.com —
... report for the Washington Post which says that the Obama administration is drafting an executive order to reassert Bush's claimed presidential authority to lock up detainees forever without trial.
It's generating a lot of blogger comment, with rightwing posts being mostly along the lines of "see, we told you Bush was right" and leftwing posts being critical of Obama's plans and the very notion of indefinite detention.
The report is being described as a "trial balloon". Not to see if people will accept the idea of indefinite detentions - Obama has ...
Obama considering an executive order allowing indefinite detention.
Think Progress —
... that would reassert presidential authority to incarcerate terrorism suspects indefinitely.” Impetus for the executive order comes from officials being “increasingly worried that reaching quick agreement with Congress on a new detention system may be impossible.” Additionally, such an order “could be rescinded and would not block later efforts to write legislation.” Over on The Wonk Room, CAP’s Ken Gude explains that while there are still concerns over the emerging policy, “it would be a significant improvement over ...
Obama Drafts Order for Indefinite Detention Without Trial for Terrorists
Stop The ACLU —
Obama Drafts Order for Indefinite Detention Without Trial for Terrorists Posted on June 27, 2009 Remember when the left used to cry about how Bush was Hitler for indefinitely detaining terrorists without trial? Now that Obama is actually considering making it law, there aren’t so many cries. Unfortunately, I have to give credit to the most annoying sock puppet in the blogosphere for consistent convictions. Yes, it is a trail balloon, and its being floated on a Saturday, but is shows what principles Obama is willing to consider breaking if the outrage factor is low enough. Hypocrite. Such an order would embrace claims by former president George W. ...
Late Night: Obama and the Bite Me Point
Firedoglake —
If we had a sane polity, it would be clear that for all of Obama's popularity and obviously stellar political skills, he's hardly invulnerable. Indeed, taking a very broad historical view, it's incredibly obvious just how exposed he is: if he had a serious, thoughtful rival in either party, a genuine Nemesis, ...
Preventive Detention By Executive Order
The Moderate Voice —
That is what Barack Obama is now planning, according to an article by Dafna Linzer and Peter Finn in the Washington Post. The article, which I blogged about last night, at Comments from Left Field, is difficult to make sense of because it’s really more about the Obama administration using two reporters to take the public temperature on a desired policy than it is a news story about an actual government program.
Glenn Greenwald has a lot to say about the disservice this kind of muddy journalism does to public understanding (emphasis is Glenn’s):
Anonymous trial balloon articles like ...
Obama and Indefinite Detention
The Anonymous Liberal —
... If the Washington Post's sources are correct, the Obama administration is now considering implementing an indefinite detention program via executive order, a move that would be troubling for any number of reasons and, as Glenn Greenwald explains, completely contradict Obama's rhetoric and record of statements on this issue. ...
What to do, what to do . . . about Guantanamo?
The Reaction —
... of many countries, contrasting them with the administration's probable call for indefinite detention by the U.S. He concluded that, "numerous other countries are, with their actions, adhering to the values and principles which we, with words, righteously claim to embody." Now the White House has drafted an executive order reasserting presidential authority to ...
Crazy week
The Reaction —
By Michael J.W. Stickings It's late Sunday night. Actually, it's already Monday morning here in the eastern time zone. And I'm tired. I don't have anything new to blog about at the moment, nothing urgent, but I've been spending much of my time thinking back on the crazy week that was: -- Iran; -- Mark Sanford; -- Michael Jackson; -- Farrah Fawcett; -- climate change; -- health care. Of course, ...
White House Denies Existence of Indefinite Detention Order; ACLU Demands Accountability
Firedoglake —
... Considering how opposed I was to this during the Bush years, it should be no shocker that I still think it's craptastically unconstitutional nincompoopery. And so does Glenn. ...
Establishment View of Obama's Civil Liberties Record
Commondreams.org Views —
... by two of the leading advocates of preventive detention -- former Bush DOJ official Jack Goldsmith and Benjamim Wittes of the right-wing Hoover Institute and neoconservative Brookings Institution -- there is this observation on Obama's possible use of an Executive Order to vest himself with preventive detention powers rather than having Congress do it for him: Obama, to put it bluntly, seems poised for a nearly wholesale adoption of the Bush administration's unilateral approach to detention. The attraction is simple, seductive and familiar. The legal arguments for ...
Locking People Up, Forever
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan —
... Greenwald also gets in his shots.
6/29: RINO-Hunting
Blogometer —
Liberal bloggers ( McCarter , Greenwald , digby , hilzoy ) are angry that the Obama admin. is reportedly "crafting language for an executive order that would reassert presidential authority to incarcerate terrorism suspects indefinitely." Conservative bloggers ( Malkin , Morrissey , Jacobson , Pilon ) are portraying the SCOTUS's decision in the Ricci case -- which "revers[ed] a decision that high court nominee Sonia Sotomayor endorsed as an appeals court judge" -- as a blow to Sotomayor's chances of ...
On the Rule of Law and Crimes of Torture
Firedoglake —
... and not address the wrongs committed against our nation, Constitution and fiber of existence. And, as Glenn Greenwald adroitly points out, President Obama even wants to raise the ante on indefinite detention without charges. How should we deal with that? ...
Disturbing trends...
the talking dog —
... Well, disturbing trends are picked up by the ever-astute Glenn Greenwald, in this Salon piece in which Glenn observes the Obama Administration's public thought balloons on issuing executive orders pertaining to absolute tyranny "preventive detention" of people who were egregiously tortured "too dangerous to release but who can't be tried." ...
