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Talking Points Memo: Senate Dems: We Got a Bill!
TalkLeft: Reid Discusses Reconciliation . . . With Ben Nelson, Landrieu and Lincoln
Daily Kos: Details of Senate HCR Bill Emerge, Reconciliation on the Table
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@moofedma RT Hey at least the #dems didn't bring up the idea of eliminating the filibuster http://bit.ly/yck1o #tcot #tlot #HCR #teaparty 11/23/2009 |
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Guess Dems don't want to keep majority. @brianbeutler Senate HC bill caps subsidies at 300 percent of poverty: http://tinyurl.com/y8qpmwq 11/19/2009 |
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Reid discussed reconciliation with Nelson, Lincoln, Landrieu http://tinyurl.com/y8qpmwq 11/19/2009 |
Senate Dems: We Got a Bill!
Talking Points Memo —
Harry Reid and several fellow Democratic senators just appeared before cameras after the caucus meeting to unveil the health care reform bill broke up.
Plus details of what went down in the meeting itself.
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Reid Discusses Reconciliation . . . With Ben Nelson, Landrieu and Lincoln
TalkLeft —
This strikes me as quite good news: [E]arlier in the day, in a meeting about floor procedure going forward, [Senate Majority Leader] Reid let three of the key skeptics within his party know that if they join Republicans at any stage of the process to block the bill, he still retains the option of passing major parts of the bill through the filibuster proof budget reconciliation process. In response to a question from TPMDC Nelson told reporters that, at a meeting this afternoon with Sens. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) and Blanche Lincoln (D-AR), Reid ...
Details of Senate HCR Bill Emerge, Reconciliation on the Table
Daily Kos —
... But perhaps the best news emerges from Reid's meeting earlier in the day with the ConservaDems. TPM's Brian Beutler reports that Reid brought up the "R" word with the recalictrant Dems. ...
Reconciliation is in the Vicinity of the Table
Matthew Yglesias —
... than no bill. That levels the bargaining position. Progressive members are being asked to support a bill that contains provisions they don’t necessarily like on the grounds that the overall package is better than the alternative. That needs to be a two-way street in which moderate members are, likewise, prepared to vote for a bill even if they don’t get there way on every single point. The prospect of reconciliation is the best way to motivate that choice.
So I was glad to read this:
In response to a question from TPMDC Nelson told ...
With You or Without You
Talking Points Memo —
... He's not hollering about it or making threats. But in his meeting today with the key Democratic hold-outs, Sen. Reid (D-NV) made it clear that if they shut him down on one of the procedural votes, he's still got reconciliation (i.e., pushing the bill through with simple, 51 vote majorities) as an option. ...
The Reid bill
Political Animal —
... Mandates : There's an individual mandate, but the penalties are fairly weak. There is no formal employer mandate, but there are some modest fines imposed on larger employers who fail to cover their workers. Anti-trust : Bucking to demands from Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), the Senate bill does not end anti-trust exemptions for the insurance industry. For a caucus that's been at odds with itself for quite a while, Senate Dems left their meeting smiling. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said, " We're going to pass this legislation ." On the other side of the aisle, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) ...
Senate Rejects Stupak But…
Taylor Marsh —
... According to Sam Stein, the Senate bill has both a public option, with opt-out, but also “language on abortion that does not go as far as Bart Stupak’s amendment in the House,” according to Sen. Kent Conrad.
But then we get this from Brian Beutler:
According to a number of senators, the language differs from both the Stupak amendment and the less restrictive Capps amendment. But though most details remain unclear, the public option would not be permitted to ...
Senate Health Care Reform Bill Unveiled
Delaware Liberal —
... even greater cost savings–up to $650 billion, with the caveat that after 10 years, their analyses become highly uncertain. That price tag should reassure the faux fiscal hawks (who never voted no on war funding which is apparently free) – if the price tag was really what they’re worried about. It still contains the opt-out public option so that means that Reid will have to deal with in some way the Senate a#%hole caucus: Joe Lieberman, Mary Landrieu, Ben Nelson and Blance Lincoln. Reconciliation is still on the table: In response to a question from TPMDC Nelson told ...
As health-care reform gets closer to a vote, Reid says reconciliation on the table
The Reaction —
... By Michael J.W. Stickings TPM's Brian Beutler: At a special evening meeting of the Democratic caucus [last night], Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid outlined, in broad strokes, the details of his health ...
Big Day on Health Care Front
Talking Points Memo —
... What it looks like at the moment is that we'll have a handful, a small handful of conservative Democratic hold-outs keeping up the same guessing game at each key procedural hurdle while Sen. Reid (D-NV) keeps the threat of budget reconciliation -- i.e., forcing the bill through with 51 vote majorities -- quietly in play. ...
11/19: Score One For Harry
Blogometer —
... that Reid reportedly raised the possibility of using reconciliation to pass health care reform during a meeting with centrist Dems. Lefty bloggers believe that the threat of reconciliation gives progressive Dems more leverage and makes centrists like Lincoln, Landrieu, and Nelson more likely to compromise. What else is happening in the blogosphere? HEALTH CARE REFORM: It's A Numbers Game Liberal bloggers are buzzing about the CBO's ...
