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pandagon.net - we are the public option: Lowery, Rhue speak out on Warren debacle; Saddleback homophobe to keynote at King Memorial Service
Think Progress: Warren’s church removes anti-gay statements from website.
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Lowery, Rhue speak out on Warren debacle; Saddleback homophobe to keynote at King Memorial Service
pandagon.net - we are the public option —
by Pam Spaulding
(UPDATE: Rick Warren pulled the anti-gay language from his church’s web site (see the Google cache for the original language). The relevant question is whether the church now suddenly welcomes “unrepentant gays,” and if this is about Warren being embarrassed or Team Obama putting some heat on him - a good journalist would ask the obvious questions of the megachurch pastor). Perhaps some “unrepentant gays” need to contact Saddleback and see if they can join.
UPDATE ...
Warren’s church removes anti-gay statements from website.
Think Progress —
On Friday, AmericaBlog’s John Aravosis pointed out that the website for Rev. Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church explicitly said that “someone unwilling to repent for their homosexual lifestyle would not be accepted as a member at Saddleback”:
Today, however, Aravosis notes that the anti-gay language has been pulled from the website. View a Google cache of the original page here. ...
Around the Web in 80.09837 Seconds, 12.23.08
The Latest on Air America —
John Aravosis does his homework. Seriously, folks, reading the small type on an evangelical operation's website? A thousand thanks for an excellent hoiiday gift from Americablog which reported yesterday that Pastor Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church removed anti-gay language from its website. Green Festival leaders Kevin Danaher and Alisa Gravitz offer ...
Benedict and Warren
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan —
John Aravosis has noted that the Saddleback website posting that “someone unwilling to repent for their homosexual lifestyle would not be accepted as a member at Saddleback” has been removed. I have to say that this did not strike me as in any way notable, especially since the note also insisted that gays were always welcome to attend services. And one wonders how that makes Warren different from any Catholic bishop let alone the Pope. My own church teaches that I am barred from full communion because of my civil marriage to another man, although it does not bar ...
Early Morning Swim
Firedoglake —
... He's good enough, he's smart enough...
What's Rick Warren hiding?
Uh, Melissa? You're not paying attention.
Caroline refuses to disclose her finances.
Bush sez he did a heckuva job.
Unions sue Ahnold.
While Kaleefornia goes bust.
Atrios is right -- it's all about pissing off liberals.
A Small Cave-In by Warren - But a Cave-In Nonetheless
Hoffmania! —
... Anti-gay wording removed from his website. It doesn't change much, but at least one conduit of propagating intolerance is gone.
Rick Warren's Church Scrubs Gay Ban from Website
The BRAD BLOG —
... On Monday, BeliefNet reported that the website for Rick Warren's Saddleback Church in Orange County, Cal., contained a warning that unrepentant gays were forbidden from joining the church:
Because membership in a church is an outgrowth of accepting the ...
Redacting Saddleback
Ben Smith's Blog —
... Aravosis notices that Rick Warren's church has deleted a passage from its website: "Someone unwilling to repent of their homosexual lifestyle would not be accepted at (sic) a member at Saddleback church." ...
Tuesday's Mini-Report
Political Animal —
... . * More members of Obama's national security team were announced today. * Howard Wolfson isn't headed to the State Department, but he is going to Michael Bloomberg's re-election campaign. * Some of Obama's detractors need geography lessons . * Federal prosecutors seem to have seriously mishandled the Ted Stevens prosecution. * I had no idea so many presidents had been photographed without their shirts on . * I guess Rick Warren is embarrassed about some of his church's anti-gay messages? * Even now, Fox News personalities are ...
Emptying the piggy bank of political capital: is Rick Warren really worth it?
BlueOregon —
... society" engaged with "poverty and disease and charity and social justice and racial justice."
Obama wants to encourage this move, which would be good for him and good for progressive politics. Fear that Obama's analysis is exactly right is why so many conservatives are so angry with Warren for blessing the new president's inaugural.
A lot of major lefty bloggers clearly disagree. And they've been using some of their muscle. I understand the chafing at the symbolism. And if our country weren't in ...
