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The Memos Prove We Didn't Torture
DAVID B. RIVKIN JR. and LEE A. CASEY The four memos on CIA interrogation released by the White House last week reveal a cautious and conservative Justice Department advising a CIA that cared deeply about staying within the law. Far from "green lighting" torture -- or cruel, inhuman or degrading ...
Bush-era CIA officials push back
thecable.foreignpolicy.com — As U.S. President Barack Obama appeared at the CIA Monday, a conflagration sparked by his administration's decision... last week to release Bush-era memos describing harsh interrogation techniques was having gasoline poured on it. Though Obama pointedly ... (more) Bush-era CIA officials push back
Ex-CIA chief: Obama risks national security
Ex-CIA chief: Obama risks national security
cnn.com — Former CIA chief Michael Hayden said Sunday it is wrong to make interrogation methods public.... (more) Ex-CIA chief: Obama risks national security
Is waterboarding effective? CIA did it 266 times on two prisoners
csmonitor.com — The number, much higher than previously reported, comes out as President Obama visits CIA headquarters today. By... Liam Stack posted April 20, 2009 at 9:05 am EST • A daily summary of global reports on security issues. The ongoing debate over the ethics ... (more) Is waterboarding effective? CIA did it 266 times on two ...
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Morning Skim: Pot vs. Booze, Bank Loans, Waterboarding and More
Opinionator — ... that can’t. . . . [I]f Goldman pays back its TARP and the market punishes Bank Of America for not being able to do so, that’s fine. That’s what the market is supposed to do: Differentiate between “A” students and “D” (or worse) students. The moment you decree that, for the sake of the system, everyone has to be a “C-minus” student is the day you really have veered into socialism. Wall Street Journal : David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey say the four Bush memos released last week “ prove we didn’t torture “: The four memos on CIA interrogation released by the White House last ...

After Calling Waterboarding Torture In December, David Rivkin Pens Op-Ed Defending Its Use
Think Progress — ... — argue that the OLC torture memos released last week by the Obama administration “prove” that the Bush administration did not torture detainees. “Far from ‘green lighting’ torture…the memos detail the actual techniques used and the many measures taken to ensure that interrogations did not cause severe pain or degradation,” they write. ...

Torture? Just Walk On By …
Opinionator — ... !” he wrote in response to the news that Khalid Shaikh Mohammed had been waterboarded 183 times in a month. David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey opt for a more lawyer-ish approach in today’s Wall Street Journal, arguing that the memos “prove we didn’t torture.” How so? They “detail the actual techniques used and the many measures taken to ensure that interrogations did not cause severe pain or degradation”: An Aug. 1, 2002, memo describes the practice of “walling” — recently revealed in a report by the International Committee of the Red Cross, which suggested that detainees ...

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Happy Hour Links
Weekly Standard Blog — David Rivkin and Lee Casey: "The Memos Prove We Didn't Torture" Jennifer Rubin on Obama's projection of weakness toward Iran. Do you now, or have you ever, opposed gay marriage? The politicization of the Miss USA pageant. The case for a 99 percent estate tax: CNN reports on Meghan McCain's Daily Beast column (yes, it's really come to this), in which the former presidential candidate's daughter writes that she totz finds it "creepy" that Karl Rove follows her on Twitter. Gingrich on ...

Why Obama Won’t Release ALL the CIA Memos on “Torture”
Flopping Aces — ... a selected batch of memos detailing the Bush Administration’s scrupulous efforts to maintain humane, yet effective interrogations of the most vile Al Queda terrorists in our custody. That move was ...

Speaking Truth to Power (Privately)
The Corner on National Review Online — ... ... Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency under Mr. Bush, said on Fox News Sunday last weekend that the use of these techniques against these terrorists made us safer. It really did work. Former Vice President Dick Cheney, in a separate interview with Fox, endorsed that conclusion and said he has asked the C.I.A. to declassify memos detailing the gains from the harsh interrogations. See also (if you haven't) David Rifkin and Lee Casey's piece here , Marc Thiessen's piece ...

May: Shock Therapy
Articles on National Review Online — ... severe mental or physical harm. Another memo makes clear that supervising physicians were empowered to stop interrogations if in their professional judgment the detainee may suffer severe physical or mental pain or suffering. What s severe? Again, circumstances matter and judgments may differ. Attempting to criminalize such differences is appallingly unethical — not least when done by people who call themselves ethicists. Former Justice Department attorney David Rivkin has pointed out that the EITs described in the memos had been adapted from a U.S. military training ...

Meet the Cast of the Sotomayor Hearings
The American Prospect Articles — ... probably focus on the influence of foreign law on the Court -- a constant bugaboo for the right because it generally has a liberalizing effect on the high court. Justice Anthony Kennedy's move to the left on issues such as the death penalty had a great deal to do with his travels abroad and study of international law. John McGinnis, a professor at Northwestern and an outspoken critic of affirmative action, will likely also take on Sotomayor's Ricci ruling, while David Rivkin, who argued in the Wall Street Journal that the Bush administration's torture memos proved the ...

WaPo Peddles Baseless Constitutional Attack on Health Reform
Wonk Room — ... after it criticized widespread human rights abuses at Guantanamo Bay, and they recently claimed that Bush-era DOJ memos authorizing the use of torture “prove we didn’t torture.”  Rivkin once claimed that President Bush had ...

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Debunking the Torture Apologists’ “Half the Intelligence” Claim
emptywheel.firedoglake.com 4/20/2009 — image courtesy of quapan In another thread, Bob Schacht wrote , BTW, according to CNN, Haynes and Mukasey are claiming that “half” of what we “know” about Al Qaeda came from torture sessions. Did they really write that, and if so, I’m ...
Cheney to CIA: Declassify the memos that prove interrogation tactics worked
sistertoldjah.com 4/21/2009 — Drudge has the scoop : In a two part interview airing tonight and tomorrow night on FOX News Channel’s Hannity (9-10PM ET), former Vice President Dick Cheney shared his thoughts on the CIA memos that were recently declassified and also revealed ...
More Things That Are Missing
washingtonmonthly.com 4/18/2009 — More Things That Are Missing A couple of other things that are missing from the torture memos: First, the memos cite various legal precedents for the definition of torture. They are particularly fond of Mehinovic v. Vuckovic, which involved "a...
Don't Kill the CIA
WWW.samefacts.com 4/27/2009 — It was only a matter of time before the torture debate turned on the CIA. Matthew Yglesias has done it, suggesting that we "consider" abolishing the agency. This would be a great idea if it weren't completely wrong. Let me suggest just a few reasons why:
No Prosecution for WaterboardingWSJ.com: Politics And Policy 4/17/2009
The White House granted legal immunity to CIA officials who followed Justice Department guidelines in carrying out harsh interrogations of terror suspects after 9/11.
An interrogation memoL.A. Times - Politics 4/17/2009
Excerpts from an Aug. 1, 2002, memo granting the CIA permission to use certain interrogation techniques on suspected Al Qaeda operative Abu Zubaydah. > 'Suffocation and incipient ...
NYT: CIA officials inflated suspect's importancemsnbc.com: Politics 4/18/2009
The first use of waterboarding and other rough treatment against a prisoner from Al Qaeda was ordered by CIA officials despite the belief that the prisoner had already told them all he knew.
Memo: 2 al Qaeda leaders waterboarded 266 timesCNN.com - Politics 4/20/2009
CIA interrogators used waterboarding at least 266 times on two top al Qaeda suspects, according to a Bush-era Justice Department memo released by the Obama administration.
Cafferty: Waterboarding 2 members of al Qaeda 266 times constitute a crime?CNN Political Ticker 4/21/2009
Join the conversation on Jack's blog. Those hotly debated Bush era interrogation memos include this little nugget: CIA officials waterboarded two al Qaeda suspects 266 times. Interrogators waterboarded Abu Zubaydah at least 83 times in August ...