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Thou Shalt Not Criticize Thy Fellow DC Democrat
Open Left - Front Page —
... One of my favorite bloggers, Matt Yglesias, put up a post a post a few days ago talking about the think tank Third Way, a DLC spinoff. He called them a 'neat organization' that does 'clever messaging stuff', but also said their "domestic policy agenda is hyper-timid incrementalist bullshit." He excused that by saying that "Third Way isn't really a "public policy think tank" at all, it's a messaging and political tactics outfit." ...
CAP and Third Way
Ben Smith's Blog —
... Matthew Yglesias, who now blogs on the website of the Center for American Progress, wrote Friday that Third Way, another Democratic group, puts out "shallow" policy and that its domestic agenda is "hyper-timid incrementalist bull***." This isn't the worst thing anyone ever said about anyone else on the Internet ("incrementalist" hasn't always been a fighting word), but executives at the non-profits seem to have taken it pretty seriously: In an unusual, unexplained move, the acting CEO of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, Jen ...
One of the great lessons of the blogosphere: never Palmieri on an Yglesias.
Althouse —
... credibility, and possibly shoot your job prospects in both feet. Heckuva job."And Kos has posted on it too: The Center for American Progress should not make a habit of doing this. And for the record, the editors on the site can say whatever they want about whoever and I won't get all creepy and Big Brother on them. p.s. And yes, the Third Way is a bunch of assholes who make the DLC look downright palatable.Kos points us to the original Yglesias post: I’m getting sort of tired of the endless ...
BigFooting Matt Yglesias
Firedoglake —
... Here's what Matt said that apparently so offended someone at Third Way who then managed to get Ms Palmieri to pounce on Matt's blog, using her publisher's keys: ...
Daily Digest: GOP Luddism, Think-Tank Blogging, and Getting to Know Genachowski
techPresident —
... Palmieri distanced the think tank from Yglesias's dig at the organization Third Way as peddlers of "hyper-timid incrementalist bull____," guilty of trying to sell their approach as one and the same as the aggressively moderate approach of Barack Obama. One hitch: Third Way is a CAP partner. Oopsie. With CAP head John Podesta leading the Obama transition effort, it's hard not to see the organization as eager to be the embodiment of institutional big-tent progressivism. The comments on Palmieri's mea culpa (or perhaps her ...
Blogging, Bounded
techPresident —
... Palmieri distanced the think tank from Yglesias's dig at the organization Third Way as peddlers of "hyper-timid incrementalist bull____," guilty of trying to sell their approach as one and the same as the aggressively moderate approach of Barack Obama. Yglesias's post: ...
The Center for American Progress's Fairness Doctrine
Weekly Standard Blog —
... Matthew Yglesias, who now blogs on the website of the Center for American Progress, wrote Friday that Third Way, another Democratic group, puts out "shallow" policy and that its domestic agenda is "hyper-timid incrementalist bull***." This isn't the worst thing anyone ever said about anyone else on the Internet ("incrementalist" hasn't always been a fighting word), but executives at the nonprofits seem to have taken it pretty seriously: In an unusual, unexplained move, the acting CEO of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, Jen Palmieri, posted ...
Uh oh. Somebody cut the cake. I told them to wait for you, but they cut it anyway. There is still some left, though, if you hurry back.
Crooked Timber —
I missed this bit of DC think-tank inside-baseball yesterday. Matt Yglesias wrote something critical about Third Way:
Third Way is a neat organization — I used to work across the hall from them. And they do a lot of clever messaging stuff that a lot of candidates find very useful. But their domestic policy agenda is hyper-timid incrementalist bullshit.
Shortly thereafter, GlaDOS Jennifer Palmieri of the Center for American progress appeared from behind the scenes and posted to Matt’s blog: ...
Center for Political Access
Comments from Left Field —
... It’s like they made a list of the dozen ways they could’ve handled some minor internecine friction—including just ignoring it—and asked: “Which of these is really guaranteed to blow up in our face in the most self-defeating way possible?” I mean, believe me, this is not the first time in history a D.C. blogger wrote something that ruffled a feather or two upstairs—I may have done it myself once or twice. But the response is usually, well, a bit more deft. … ...
Regarding ThinkProgress’s Editorial Independence
Think Progress —
Many throughout the blogosphere have been weighing in on the decision by our acting CEO, Jennifer Palmieri, to write a guest post on Matt Yglesias’ ThinkProgress blog in defense of the group Third Way.
Palmieri’s post was meant to clarify that ThinkProgress blogs don’t speak for the entire institution all the time — as has always been the policy. And that’s a good thing, because it means we are afforded great editorial independence to convey our honest views. Some of the criticisms of the institution are fair, but some are not. ...
The CAP kerfuffle
Political Animal —
THE CAP KERFUFFLE.... You've probably heard a little bit about the blogospheric issue of the day. If you're just joining us, the estimable Matt Yglesias had a brief item on Friday afternoon, principally about Barack Obama convincing centrists that an ambitious, progressive agenda is a great idea. The same post criticized Third Way, a DLC-like group that emphasizes Democratic messaging and tactics in a think-tankish kind of way. Specifically, Yglesias referred to the group's domestic policy agenda as "hyper-timid incrementalist bullshit," adding that the group's policy ideas ...
Minor Blogging Controversy Yields New Term For The Political Lexicon
The Huffington Post | Full News Feed —
... Last Friday, blogger Matt Yglesias penned a rather innocuous post that, in part, criticized a centrist messaging factory called Third Way of whom you've probably never heard. This criticism apparently ran a tad afoul of the folks for whom Matt blogs, the Center for American Progress, because a few days later, the acting CEO of CAP's "Action Fund," Jennifer Palmieri, ...
Minor Blogging Controversy Yields New Term For The Political Lexicon
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com —
... Last Friday, blogger Matt Yglesias penned a rather innocuous post that, in part, criticized a centrist messaging factory called Third Way of whom you've probably never heard. This criticism apparently ran a tad afoul of the folks for whom Matt blogs, the Center for American Progress, because a few days later, the acting CEO of CAP's "Action Fund," Jennifer Palmieri, ...
An Alternative Vision
QandO —
... that Obama is a “Kumbaya Progressive” (and Hillary a Fighting Pragmatist) at a time when Progressives are looking for a Fighting Progressive. No doubt that yearning has only sharpened with a second electoral smashing of the GOP. Progressives who long ago tired of “incrementalist bulls**t” understandably believe they have a mandate, and that it’s time for bold Progressive governance. ...
"Third Way" on Public Option: Make One that Can't Work
Daily Kos —
... The "progressives" at Third Way, that moderate public policy think thank tank that apparently exists to make the DLC look like regular liberal firebrands, turned their hyper-incrementalist bullshit domestic policy sites on something that matters: the public option in the health care reform package. ...
