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JEFFREY GOLDBERG: When Muslims Commit Violence.
I am not arguing, of course, that American Musli…
Instapundit —
JEFFREY GOLDBERG: When Muslims Commit Violence.
I am not arguing, of course, that American Muslims, as a whole, are violently unhappy with America (I’ve argued the opposite, in fact). But I do think that elite makers of opinion in this country try very hard to ignore the larger meaning of violent acts when they happen to be perpetrated by Muslims. Here’s a simple test: If Nidal Malik Hasan had been a devout Christian with pronounced anti-abortion views, and had he attacked, say, a Planned Parenthood office, would his religion have been ...
'It Would Be a Shame If Our Diversity Became a Casualty as Well'
JammieWearingFool —
... that we don't want to see happen," Casey told CNN. Yes, let's just ignore the mountain of evidence and keep our heads in the sand. God forbid we offend somebody. Some 3,500 self-declared Muslims serve in the US armed forces. Experts suggest there are actually many more closeted Muslims in the armed forces who are afraid to openly declare their faith. How many of them are time bombs like this maniac Hasan? One also wonders whether we'd be hearing about diversity if the killer was a pro-life Christian ? Here's a simple test: If Nidal Malik Hasan had been a devout Christian ...
Meanwhile, About Afghanistan…
Taylor Marsh —
... Jeffrey Goldberg doesn’t waste a moment digging down, deep and dumb on what it all means in “When Muslims Commit Violence,” which should read When Analysis Gets Stuck On Stupid. ...
What to do About Hasan’s Religion?
PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts —
Jeffrey Goldberg writes at The Atlantic in a post entitled When Muslims Commit Violence:
I do think that elite makers of opinion in this country try very hard to ignore the larger meaning of violent acts when they happen to be perpetrated by Muslims. Here’s a simple test: If Nidal Malik Hasan had been a devout Christian with pronounced anti-abortion views, and had he attacked, say, a Planned Parenthood office, would his religion have been considered relevant as we tried to understand the motivation and meaning of the attack? Of course. ...
The Hole
Blue Crab Boulevard —
... and other authorities knew about his beliefs but seemed to think it was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity – as if believing that “the Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor” (i.e., his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet paeans to the “noble” “heroism” of suicide bombers and, indeed, objectively supporting the other side in an active war is to be regarded as just some kind of alternative lifestyle that adds to the general vibrancy of the base. Jeffrey Goldberg noticed the same hole: I am not arguing, of course, that American Muslims, as ...
When Muslims Commit Violence
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan —
I want to broadly second Goldblog on this point: Elite makers of opinion in this country try very hard to ignore the
larger meaning of violent acts when they happen to be perpetrated by
Muslims. Here's a simple test: If Nidal Malik Hasan had been a devout
Christian with pronounced anti-abortion views, and had he attacked,
say, a Planned Parenthood office, would his religion have been
considered relevant as we tried to understand the motivation and
meaning of the attack?
Of course. Elite opinion makers do not, as a
rule, try ...
When Muslims Commit Violence
Flopping Aces —
... Here’s a simple test: If Nidal Malik Hasan had been a devout Christian with pronounced anti-abortion views, and had he attacked, say, a Planned Parenthood office, would his religion have been considered relevant as we tried to understand the motivation and meaning of the attack? Of course. Elite opinion makers do not, as a rule, try to protect Christians and Christian belief from investigation and criticism. Quite the opposite. It would be useful to apply the same standards of inquiry and criticism to all religions. ...
Quote of the Day: Andrew Sullivan on religious extremism and the Fort Hood massacre
The Reaction —
... Here's Andrew Sullivan, responding to Jeffrey Goldberg, with a very sensible take: I did not leap to that conclusion in this case as the primary reason for the attack because we didn't fully know the entire picture -- and ...
Still Pushing It: "Secondary Trauma" May Be to Blame for Hasan's Mass Murder
Ace of Spades HQ —
... explained to TIME that: "Anyone who works with P.T.S.D. clients and hears their stories will be profoundly affected." Um, but what about the fact he appeared to be an Al Qaeda wannabe -- literally a wannabe, attempting to contact them, and drinking the venom spat out by Al Qaeda's favorite former Iman in America? Oh, Time makes allowances their theory may be incomplete: It's entirely possible that other factors may have acted as a trigger for Hasan's alleged killing spree. Jeffrey Goldberg has some thoughts on When Muslims Attack: This is the second time this year American ...
The Lessons of Fort Hood
Megan McArdle —
... While I was zonked out on Nyquil, I see I've taken a lot of heat for saying that there was no political lesson to be learned from the Fort Hood shootings. Our own Jeffrey Goldberg says: ...
Was It Terrorism?
Wonk Room —
... Jeffrey Goldberg writes that “Elite makers of opinion in this country try very hard to ignore the larger meaning of violent acts when they happen to be perpetrated by Muslims,” and suggests this “simple test“: ...
Does The Media Give Islam A Pass?
Matthew Yglesias —
Jeffrey Goldberg spies a double-standard:
I do think that elite makers of opinion in this country try very hard to ignore the larger meaning of violent acts when they happen to be perpetrated by Muslims. Here’s a simple test: If Nidal Malik Hasan had been a devout Christian with pronounced anti-abortion views, and had he attacked, say, a Planned Parenthood office, would his religion have been considered relevant as we tried to understand the motivation and meaning of the attack? Of course. Elite opinion makers do not, as a rule, ...
Islam: A Group Of Pissed-Off People
Snapped Shot —
I was perusing Ace earlier and this post, where he cites Jeffrey Goldberg, caught my eye.
Ace quips about Jeffrey's title: When Muslims Attack!
This got me to thinking of a similar post a few years back. Took me a bit to find it again, it was posted 2 years ago, but I think it is still relevant today as ever.
The List of Things That Offend Muslims
Amboy starts off his list with this:
The West needs to come to grips with this fact and start standing up for our God-given rights of free ...
The Meaning of Fort Hood
Opinionator —
... on the situation, says the C.I.A. became aware months ago that Hasan may have been trying to make contact with al Qaeda. If this is true, heads should roll — especially if it is established during the investigation that political correctness — sorry, Gen. Casey, “diversity” — kept competent authorities from acting swiftly and sensibly against Hasan. Yesterday at The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg said many in the media were responsible for underplaying the importance of the moment. “ I do think that elite makers of opinion in this country try very hard to ignore the larger ...
Just A Reminder Hasan Not The First
Rhymes With Right —
... Muslim community rather than the victims of this latest attack and the potential victims of future attacks by radicalised Muslims. Again, this is not an attack on Muslims as a group. Most are loyal, and the contributions of Muslims in the military and law enforcement are often exemplary. But respect for good Muslims and a desire to embrace the full diversity of our society cannot outweigh the need to provide for security of all. We cannot look away from the problem out of ...
It’s So Easy
Unqualified Offerings —
... about the Fort Hood massacre, but she has an unfair advantage: she’s not an anti-Muslim bigot, nor does she have the overarching aim to delegitimize all Muslim participation in American politics. Otherwise, she might see a worrying pattern in the fact that something similar has happened in the Army three times in six years . (”No pattern? It totally happened in 2003, man!”)
Michael J.W. Stickings: Terrorism, Religious Extremism, and the Fort Hood Massacre
Politics on HuffingtonPost.com —
... is thrown around post-9/11, to call it terrorism.) On the flip side, it is ridiculous to claim, as some have (such as James Fallows), that the attack was essentially meaningless.
Without rushing to prejudicial conclusions, after all, we do need to consider the possibility that Nidal Malik Hasan's Muslim faith played a major role, if not necessarily the dominant one, in what happened.
Here's Andrew Sullivan, responding to Jeffrey Goldberg, with a very sensible take:
I did not leap to that conclusion ...
Jillian Bandes: Jennifer Rubin On Hasan
Townhall.com Blog's TownHall Blog —
... and Jeffrey Goldberg have been the ones to say it best so far: it doesn't matter whether or not he was a nonideological nut or if he was a terrorist with convictions (though the evidence would strongly point to the latter) -- he shouldn't have been passed over by the FBI. The obtuseness in a post-9/11 world is mind-boggling.
