Early Morning Swim
Firedoglake —
... Hillary accepts?
It might be up to teh Clenis.
Wingnut fight: Huck bitchslaps Romney.
Lieberputz to keep chairmanship.
Zogby conducts anti-Obama push poll.
More awesome news from Wall St.!
Saxby fights a subpoena.
Whining from Norm Coleman.
Debating choice.
Prince backpedals on teh homophobia.
LOL.
11/18: Netroots' Hopes Dashed
Blogometer —
... . The website features a Zogby poll of 512 Obama voters and video footage of various Obama voters which suggest that Obama's voters were uninformed: Liberal blogger Nate Silver criticizes pollster John Zogby for conducting such a dubious poll: "The conservative website ...
Breaking: Zogby A Crock
TalkLeft —
... My title is ironic and muted because J does not want me calling people charlatans in the titles. Poblano "breaks" the news that Zogby is a charlatan: ...
“How Obama Got Elected” & The Right’s Delusions
Oliver Willis —
... is being pushed by right wing radio and blogs is exactly the sort of thing that will keep the conservatives and their party as a regional, minority, organization. They’ve cherry picked comments and commissioned a push poll in order to push the idea that it wasn’t a failure of conservatism and the Republican party that led to their historical drubbing at the polls this November, no sir. According to this video and the people pushing it (I heard about it on one of our local right talkers) the right lost because Obama supporters are dumb. ...
Operation Undermine Obama
Interesting Times —
... brought this video to my attention, but his take from it was that "stupid" people should not be allowed to vote. I asked him how we would test for this. He didn't know. He was just outraged that "stupid" people should be allowed to vote. (* - I kid. Of course I know the point. The point is to say that anyone who voted for Obama is an idiot therefore Obama is not a legitimate President and therefore anything done to undermine his Presidency is pro-American and patriotic.) Update : Nate Silver has more .
Wingnuts' latest: Obama voters are stoopid because media didn't spread their smears
Crooks and Liars —
... But as Nate Silver says, this is flat-out push-polling. Look at the questions in the first half of the data summary -- nearly every one of the supposed "facts" is either simply false or a grotesque distortion: ...
Zogby Engages in Apparent Push Polling for Right-Wing Website
Democratic Underground Latest Breaking News —
... apparent intelligence/verbal abilities and willingness to express their opinions to a large audience". The clip portrays the Obama supporters as giving "incorrect" answers to political questions such as "which candidate said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket". Of the 12 Obama supporters interviewed for the clip, 7 (58%) are black; nationwide, about 23% of Obama supporters were black according to the national exit poll. Read more: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/zogby-engages-in... What a couple of douche bags. I guess ...
Verdict is in: Zogby poll supposedly demonstrating Obama voters' 'ignorance' was a joke
Crooks and Liars —
That poll created by wingnut John Ziegler purporting to demonstrate that Obama voters were misinformed by the mainstream media about Barack Obama and Joe Biden (and defended so scatalogically by Ziegler) has been examined by objective polling experts beyond Nate Silver now, and the verdict is unanimous:
Wall Street Journal:
"..Interpreted the numbers from the survey in a misleading fashion."
Pollster.com:
The Zogby summary quotes Ziegler claiming that "the poll really ...
catching some z's
skippy the bush kangaroo —
... nate silver @ 538.com took great exception to the obvious slant of the questions, calling the whole endeavor a "push poll." most of the questions on the survey take the form of a multiple choice political knowledge test, stating a "fact" to the respondent and asking them ...
A Study In Ignorance: Voters And Would-Be Pollsters
Open Left - Front Page —
This week brought us yet another classic example of the difference between the rightwing propaganda model and the center-left reality-based deliberative approach to the world, its problems, puzzles and issues. On Tuesday, Nate Silver at 538 wrote a diary about an apparent push poll designed to push the (product as well as propaganda) line that Obama won the election through the ignorance of his supporters. Nate followed up with a ...
Still Stupid After All Of These Years
Balloon Juice —
... , continue to get the similar result, and it doesn’t confirm anything, because the problem is the QUESTIONS ARE BAD. Additionally, the questions don’t even address what you think they address- how does asking people to discern between Palin’s nonsensical gibberish and Tina Fey’s impression of Palin prove media bias? If I bang my thumb with a hammer 100 times, it may hurt every time, but it most certainly doesn’t explain why the sun rises in the east. ...
Hannity: ‘If You Don’t Listen To Talk Radio, If You Don’t Watch Fox News,’ You’re Misinformed
Think Progress —
... Last night, Fox’s Hannity & Colmes hosted John Ziegler, author of a push poll attempting to prove that voters who supported Barack Obama were misinformed. Hannity used Ziegler’s study to complain that Obama supporters didn’t know about “really significant issues” like Bill Ayers and Obama’s views on coal. He insisted that only those who watched Fox News understood the real issues: ...


