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Say Anything: Democrat Congresswoman: Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Care Industry
Ace of Spades HQ: Democratic Congresswoman: Hey, You Know What Might Be Fun? Destroying the Private Health Insurance System, That's What
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informedtx Has anyone figured out that while members of this Administration and Congress are promoting a single payor healthcare option for us, they will continue to have their healthcare delivered through the "very rich" private plan that has always been available to them. If it is good enough for us, it should be good enough for them. Think of the money that would save. With upwards of 70% of Americans relatively satisfied with their current healthcare, why are we destroying it to satisfy the others - many of whom who have it available to them, but don't want to pay for it. France has nationalized healthcare - and it only pays 70% of what they think you should be charged. You either pay the difference, or purchase a supplement that will. Not to mention the high taxes that you pay there, and any other country that offers "cradle to grave" benefits. Next in line will be the rationing of healthcare that is already in motion. I wonder how that would have worked out for Sen.'s Kennedy and Specter - to take a look at their age and condition - think it would have been approved?
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Lostfutures *Steps up on his soapbox*
Ok here's the deal. I lived in Australia for roughly 3 years right at the en of the 90's and into the year 2000. I was witness and a rather UN-willing participant of thier "Universal Healthcare" system. Let me put it bluntly. It is not worth it whatsoever. Yes I could walk into a Doc's office and be seen and pay nothing, but the doctors didn't give two hoots about you and were sadly pathetic practitioners. They couldn't diagnose issues half the time. If you wanted or needed surgery or something of that nature, expect to wait between a minimum of 6 months to 5 years in a Wait List. most likely you're gonna die if thats the case if it was life threatening. Only grace was if you bought private insurance and went to the front of the line.
Now how do they intend to pay for this lil nugget of joy? I'll tell ya. Taxes. Big Fat honkin TAXES. look at all the countries with this setup. They all have astronimical Tax rates. I was paying 46% of my paycheck each month to taxes. The bulk of it was to pay for the healthcare. Oh and I did have a pretty bad issue happen while I was living there and never got treated for it because I was 11 months down the Waitlist to get the procedure done. I returned to the States before then and it only took me 2 weeks to get consulted, booked, and taken care of. Oh and I only had cheap basic insurance that anyone can afford...imagine that. I know it looks good on paper but in reality...the whole system is flawed and proven to not work...and costs EVERYONE more in the long run. It would require a major restructuring of the financial and federal systems of the entire nation. We would grind to a halt and slam face first into a brick wall laden with rusty nails sticking out of it.
Now I will admit I may have a bias as many members of my family are in the Private Insurance business, but I am being neutral from both sides. What I state now is based on my own view from experience & education....
Who is going to find jobs for all the Employees within the industry once this takes place? This is going to easily put atleast 30,000 - 50,000 people on the Unemployment line. Who knows, maybe more than that. Most of these folks only know insurance and will be forced to return to school for a new career, some won't even have enough time to do anything due to age, others might get lucky to find a job selling thier souls on the streets. This is purely going into a direction that does NOT work for the country. Putting poeple out of jobs is contrary to what I thought this worthless new Administration supposedly said. Does Obama have a plan in place to compensate the thousands of poeple that will loose thier jobs? (Some I know are the sole breadwinners of a household). Tell ya what...They hand each one of those folks that looses thier job, to this woefully failed ideology, $1.5M severence check, not a penny less or more, for a lifetime of lost wages (Bear in mind most insurance agents earn on average $90k-$125k per year...so $1.5M is a pittance in the overall picture). I would like Mr. Obama, his fellow Politicians, Mrs. Obama and all the other Mothers supporting this out there to go and speak to EACH child of those poeple about to loose thier jobs and explain to them why thier parents were forced out of a job by the Government and thier Nation's leader for an idea that only benefits the Lazy & Illegal Immigrants...but even then those that benefit will learn it was better left alone as it is. Yes I want them to look into thier eyes and tell them they can no longer do that afterschool activity that Mom & Dad can't afford anymore, or that dream of being a Figure Skater or a Singer is not gonna happen because they can't afford the lessons anymore, Or why their parents divorced over the stress of money and the dire situation they have been placed in.
I could go on and on about this and never be finished but I think the point is understood...atleast my point of view that is.
Due to all the freeloaders, whiners, ignorant minorities, immigrants wanting everything thier way and complaining if it doesn't get handed to them or done to their satisfaction...WE have to deconstruct everything built and turn ourselves into what is fast becoming a Communist State.
*Steps down from his soapbox, huffs and walks away to find a country he once heard of called United States of America*
Videos: The real goal of health-care “reform”
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Videos: The real goal of health-care “reform” posted at 9:23 am on April 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey Send to a Friend | Share on Facebook | printer-friendly The Obama administration and Congressional Democrats want to pass a $634 billion health-care reform bill that they claim will not crowd out private insurers but will only restructure health-care delivery more rationally. One of its co-sponsors, though, lets the cat out of the bag while drumming up support in Chicago earlier this month. Rep. Jan Schakowsky tells the audience that the bill is a Trojan horse for single-payer, and that she’s not interested in waging a “principled fight”, as Verum Serum ...
Democrat Congresswoman: Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Care Industry
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Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) is saying that Obama’s health care plans will destroy the private health care industry. And of course they will. That’s the point. Destroy the private sector and make everyone dependent on the government.
It’s just that it usually isn’t good for liberals to just come right out and say stuff like that.
For the record, this is the same woman who called the tea parties “despicable and shameful.”
Now, maybe some of you are thinking that it would be ok for the government to run health care. After all, ...
Democratic Congresswoman: Hey, You Know What Might Be Fun? Destroying the Private Health Insurance System, That's What
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Democratic Congresswoman: Hey, You Know What Might Be Fun? Destroying the Private Health Insurance System, That's What "This is not a principled fight," she says, probably having meant to say something else, but blundering into meaning what she actually said.
Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Health Insurance Industry
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Democratic Congresswoman: 'Strategic objective of the Obama healthcare reform plan is to destroy the private health insurance industry'
Hyscience —
Democratic Congresswoman lets the cat out of the bag: At a speech on April 18, 2009 at a rally for healthcare reform in Chicago, Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) admitted that a strategic objective of the Obama healthcare reform plan is to destroy the private health insurance industry.
Highlight of her statements: "I know many of you here today are single payer advocates and so am I ... and those of us who are pushing for a public health insurance don't disagree with this goal. This is not a principled fight. This is a fight about strategy for getting ...
Dem Leader Celebrates-- Obama Healthcare Plan Will Destroy Insurance Industry (Video)
Gateway Pundit —
Far Left Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) Admits Obama Healthcare Plan Will Destroy Insurance Industry The Illinois Stalinist celebrated the coming Obama healthcare plan that will destroy private insurance industry: Via Breitbart From the video: “I know many of you here today are single payer advocates and so am I... and those of us who are pushing for a public health insurance don’t disagree with this goal. This is not a principled fight. This is a fight about strategy for getting there and I believe we will,” Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) told a group of government-run health care ...
Elected gangbanger struts her creds [Darleen Click]
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With the Chicago thug in the White House, is it any wonder his homies are feelin’ free to speak out? [image] Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) at 0:07 : And next to me was a guy from the insurance company who then argued against the public health insurance option saying it wouldn’t let private private insurance compete; that a public option would put the private insurance industry out of business and lead to single-payer. My single-payer friends — He. Was. Right. The man was right. I, uh, I … here’s what I told him. I said, excuse me sir, the goal of healthcare reform is not to protect the private health insurance industry. at 1:09 I know many of you here today are single payer ...
VIDEO: Rep. Schakowsky (D-IL) exposes liberal motivations behind healthcare “reform”
Sister Toldjah —
This truly is one of the more shocking videos I’ve seen on liberal “healthcare advocates” in Congress admitting the real purpose behind their “healthcare reform” agenda:
Here’s a partial transcript:
“I know many of you here today are single payer advocates and so am I … and those of us who are pushing for a public health insurance don’t disagree with this goal. This is not a principled fight. This is a fight about strategy for getting there and I believe we will,” Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) told a group of government-run ...
Dem Congresswoman Admits Private Health Insurance Will Be Destroyed
The Hope For America —
Wow - an honest Democrat
Open Thread
NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias —
For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Democrat Congresswoman admits in public what healthcare reform is all about! (h/t Ace): Thoughts?
Illinois Congresswoman doesn't like private health insurance
TigerHawk —
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) spoke on April 18 concerning her preferences for a public health insurance program over private health insurance. Well, maybe preference is not a strong enough word. Judge for yourselves: I kind of like my private health insurance, and would like the option to keep it. Is that a frivolous use of my liberty? I have a little tune I want to play for Congresswoman Schakowsky: Really nice acoustic guitar, don't you think? CWCID: Ace ...
Dem Rep Admits: Goal Is to Destroy Free Market Healthcare Insurance
Moonbattery —
In case there is anyone left on the planet who doesn't understand that Democrat "healthcare reform" is a Stalinist power grab, here's Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) admitting in the clearest terms that the objective is to put private insurers out of business, leaving us peasants at the mercy of inept and frankly evil bureaucrats like herself: ...
Public and private
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Is it a good idea or bad idea to drive private health insurance out of business as this Congresswoman seems happy to do? embedded by Embedded Video YouTube Direkt In Australia you can purchase private health cover despite the fact that it has a public health service. I’ve got cover for the whole family and this does two things. First, people who get private cover unload the public system, leaving it to focus on the elderly and the poor. Second, it gives people the freedom to consume more than the public system provides. Although it is possible to offset private insurance payments against the tax bill, the double tap means that those who get private insurance probably ...
The taxman cometh
Belmont Club —
Open thread. Will Obama’s new tax compliance initiatives drive more companies overseas or is it simply a way of getting tax cheats to pay their fair share to the public coffers? President Barack Obama will flesh out a proposal included in his February budget blueprint seeking to curb the practice of parking foreign earnings in offshore tax havens indefinitely. By some estimates, $700 billion or more in U.S. corporate earnings have accumulated in overseas accounts in recent years. The plan to be announced Monday will go further. It aims to change the legal treatment of offshore subsidiaries and structures that companies have used to avoid not only U.S. taxes, but taxes in other ...
Did Chuck Schumer Just Give Away the “Public Health Plan”?
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Update: The insurance industry has been circulating this video of Rep. Schakowsky as a way to frighten their members. Of course, not everyone finds this frightening.
While the US Senate has been capitulating to the banksters on meaningful banking reforms, the Senate leadership has been ...
Rep. Jan Schakowski Lies to FOX Business Channel About Destroying the Private Insurance Industry
Gateway Pundit —
Last week Far Left Rep. Schakowsky (D-IL) was in the news after video was posted where she boasted that a government provided insurance plan would put private insurers out of business: "And next to me was a guy from an insurance company who then argued against the public health insurance option saying it wouldn't let private insurance compete; that a public option would put the private insurance industry out of business (cheers)... My single payer friends, he was right. The man was right. Here's what I told him. I said excuse me sir the goal of health care reform is not to protect the private health ...
Someone Should Ask Obama If Democrat Rep. Jan Schakowsky Was Lying About Health Care Too
Say Anything —
Earlier today I posted about Obama telling a national meeting of the American Medical Association that those saying that his plan would result in government control of the health care industry weren’t telling the truth. A reader emailed to remind me of this video of one of Obama’s fellow Illinois Democrats, Rep. Jan Schakowsky (last seen saying the tea party protests were attended by neo-Nazis and secessionists), telling a crowd that Obama’s plan for a government health care “option” would, in fact, drive the private insurers out of business.
So when ...
Democrat Said Obama’s Health Care Plan Will Drive Private Insurers Out Of Business
Flopping Aces —
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The ObamaCare Hole Gets Dug Deeper
Flopping Aces —
Did I say 1.3 trillion for the ObamaCare idiocy? Was I WAAAAAAY off or what?
Health Systems Innovations Network, a consulting group, went ahead and estimated the full cost of a bill that included the subsidies and Medicaid expansion, and reduced the number of uninsured by 99 percent. With these assumptions, they estimated (pdf) the cost at a staggering $4 trillion over 10 years, resulting in the shift of 79 million Americans to government-run health care. The report does not include possible tax increases or spending offsets, but notes that, “this would be a challenging proposal to finance with budget neutrality.”
And now ...
